[Sugar-devel] Sugar Server project initiation announce

Martin Langhoff martin.langhoff at gmail.com
Fri Jun 10 13:08:35 EDT 2011

On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Aleksey Lim <alsroot at activitycentral.org> wrote:
> In fact, the project started three weeks ago but for now some of its core
> purposes became more clear, ie, ready for announcing.

You guys are *weird*.

I've been hearing from AC for a while that you'd help with XS, in
private, and in grandiloquent public posts. I never received a single
patch, rpm, or anything usable.

Recently, Aleksey has been hacking on XS things, and that's excellent.
And I apologize for not being more available -- I am working against
some very tight and non-negotiable deadlines on the XO-1.75 project.
Other times I have made myself available aplenty (with David van
Assche for example).

>From Aleksey's efforts, I was expecting some patches, updated spec
files, some reason to be happy.

Instead, you announce that you fork or start from scratch (unclear to
me which). There aren't major technical disagreements, or social
disagreements -- at most you could complain that I've been a bit MIA
for the last couple weeks.

And you fork after a long long track record of promises -- in private
and in public -- of working on the XS. Promises that were never
followed up -- plenty of "cookie licking" if you want. Did anything
ever happen with the plans announced at

You also announce this as a 'Sugar project' -- are those discussed
with the board? If so... is there a 'check with current maintainer'?
Or people make them up at will?

Beyond my irritation, I hope this one goes well, and leads somewhere.
The XS needs love. A fork for the fun of it isn't exactly love but

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