[Sugar-devel] Free Terminal?

[Thomas C Gilliard]

On 12/20/2011 04:07 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
> Ok, returning to sugar-devel because I did Reply instead of Reply to 
> all :)
>
> Can you explain what is the use case of this activity you are proposing?
> The terminal is ok, when you know what to do, is waiting for you.
> Why do you think there are a wrong message here?
>
> Gonzalo
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com 
> <mailto:meta.sj at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Then it makes more sense to me to say "once you have learned how
>     to su olpc, you can use terminal to hack your user experience"
>     rather than "once you have overcome an obfuscating element in
>     Sugar, you can use terminal-without-any-help to do things you
>     might still not understand".
>
>

Add this link to Default.html? (the start page of Browse):
  http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/floss_manuals/Terminal_06Sep08.pdf
This would require using Sugar Clone
   
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Sugar_on_a_Stick.2FSugar_Clone 

to duplicate the live USB's

Or make a Fedora Remix with the .pdf file on the Soas live CD .iso
  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Build_Your_Own_Remix_with_Fedora

The terminal-application goes to root with-out any password on SoaS.
I think this is why it is not selected as a favorite.

>
>     On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com
>     <mailto:meta.sj at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Why are we judging that some people are 'not ready' to use
>         terminal?  it's not as though we hide the "delete activity"
>         menu option from people, for instance.  It seems to me to send
>         the wrong message.
>
>         Better to have a terminal replacement activity that
>         a) shows you clearly what user you are logged in as (in the
>         title bar?)
>         b) by default launches you into a new user account
>         ("user:sandbox"?) that can easily su to olpc...
>         c) offers some initial welcome/guidance/help in exploring the
>         command line.
>
>         SJ
>
>
>         On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Gonzalo Odiard
>         <gonzalo at laptop.org <mailto:gonzalo at laptop.org>> wrote:
>
>             If the user is ready to use the terminal, can go to the
>             list view and select as a favorite, right?
>             Is not hidden, only is not selected as favorite.
>
>             Gonzalo
>
>             On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Samuel Klein
>             <meta.sj at gmail.com <mailto:meta.sj at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                 Terminal is currently hidden by default on many
>                 builds.  How about unhiding it or replacing it with an
>                 activity that offers more of an intro to the command
>                 line?
>                 It is an important tool for understanding how your
>                 computer works.
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