[Sugar-devel] [Sugar emulator][Ubuntu 11.04] I can't install an activity (with the setup.py)

[laurent bernabe]

I forgot to mention that the only way I got most of Pippy examples to work,
was by installing Sweet distribution => with the standard emulator given in
xubuntu packages, I did not manage. So maybe it is a bigger problem than
setting the PYTHONPATH.


2011/12/5 laurent bernabe <laurent.bernabe at gmail.com>

> Thanks
>
>    - I have sugar-session-0.90 installed on my computer
>    - I looked at my PYTHONPATH, and it is still empty : I'm going to look
>    for the sugar libraries folder, then if I've found it, to modify my
>    PYTHONPATH
>
>
> 2011/12/5 James Simmons <nicestep at gmail.com>
>
>> Laurent,
>>
>> I found a web page where it says to run this:
>>
>> sudo aptitude install sugar sugar-activities sugar-emulator
>>
>> With RPM's on Fedora dependencies are handled automatically.  I don't see
>> why this would be any different.  It sounds like you're getting Python
>> libraries that are only visible from within Sugar.  Fedora doesn't do
>> that.  You need someone familiar with Xubuntu to advise you.  It may be an
>> issue with PYTHONPATH.
>>
>> James Simmons
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:33 PM, laurent bernabe <
>> laurent.bernabe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> You're right, I just want to develop activities, not hacking Sugar (at
>>> least, not right now, as I am just starting).
>>>
>>> My current Linux system is Xubuntu :
>>>
>>>    - First, I had tried the sugar-emulator provided by Canonical => I
>>>    did not find which package to install in order to have the sugar python
>>>    modules
>>>    - Many Pippy examples does not work with the Canonical package,
>>>    whereas I managed with Sweet
>>>
>>> But I'll uninstall sweet right now, and try to find the missing package
>>> in order to be able to use the sugar-emulator on the one hand, and use most
>>> Pippy examples on the other hand.
>>>
>>> And I will read again the chapter explaining the environement setup more
>>> accurately.
>>>
>>> 2011/12/5 James Simmons <nicestep at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> Laurent,
>>>>
>>>> This may be an issue with sweets.  If you are using Fedora then all you
>>>> really need to do is to install the Sugar RPM's that come with the
>>>> distribution.  Other distributions should have something similar.  The
>>>> module sugar.activity is a set of Python classes.  It should be available
>>>> to anyone developing Python code, whether Sugar is running or not.  It is a
>>>> fundamental library.  You can't make a Sugar Activity without it.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know what "Sweets" is doing, but if I was in your position I'd
>>>> uninstall it and install the Sugar that comes with the distribution.
>>>>  Fedora does a very good job packaging Sugar.  Their version of Sugar is
>>>> actually newer than most kids use in the field.  If your goal is to develop
>>>> Activities there is no reason to use anything else.  If you want to hack on
>>>> the Sugar environment itself you would need something newer, but I'd do
>>>> Activities first.  New or improved Activities will have a more immediate
>>>> benefit to more students than working on Sugar itself, and you'll
>>>> understand how to hack Sugar better if you've developed Activities first.
>>>>
>>>> There is a chapter on setting up a development environment in the book.
>>>>  If you skipped over it give it another look.
>>>>
>>>> James Simmons
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:00 PM, laurent bernabe <
>>>> laurent.bernabe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, I can't launch setup.py from the host system terminal
>>>>> => no module called sugar.activity
>>>>>
>>>>> And that error disappear if I launch setup.py from the sugar emulator
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2011/12/5 laurent bernabe <laurent.bernabe at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, thank you for your answer, I've well understood.
>>>>>> I'm going to apply your advice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2011/12/5 James Simmons <nicestep at gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Laurent,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't have experience with Sweets, but normally you would install
>>>>>>> the version of Sugar that comes with your distribution.  When you launch
>>>>>>> this Sugar comes up in a window.  So you have your GNOME desktop where you
>>>>>>> do your development work, plus you have this window that contains a Sugar
>>>>>>> environment that you use for testing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You run setup.py dev from a normal terminal window, not the one that
>>>>>>> Sugar provides.  This creates a symbolic link between your source directory
>>>>>>> and where Sugar wants your program to be.  After that any changes you make
>>>>>>> in your source directory will be reflected in what runs under Sugar.
>>>>>>>  You'll probably need to stop and restart your Activity to see your changes
>>>>>>> take effect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> James Simmons
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:28 AM, laurent bernabe <
>>>>>>> laurent.bernabe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am following the ActivitiesGuideSugar pdf from august 2010.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - I've fetched tutorial source code for etext activity (chapter
>>>>>>>>    5 : inheriting from Activity.activity)
>>>>>>>>    - I've modified, carefully i think, the svg picture with
>>>>>>>>    Inkscape and edited the xml structure
>>>>>>>>    - I installed the Sugar Sweets distribution
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But when I try to setup the activity from the emulator terminal, I
>>>>>>>> get an error saying that there is no module called sugar.activity
>>>>>>>> (the line in fault : "from sugar.activity import bundlebuilder".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have I forgotten an important step in my sugar environment ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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