[Sugar-devel] [SPAM?]: Re: [DESIGN] Filter in home view

[Gary Martin]

On 18 Aug 2011, at 17:56, Simon Schampijer <simon at schampijer.de> wrote:

> On 08/18/2011 06:29 PM, Gary Martin wrote:
>> Hi Simon,
>> 
>> On 18 Aug 2011, at 16:57, Simon Schampijer<simon at schampijer.de>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Gary,
>>> 
>>> On 08/16/2011 07:25 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote:
>>>> On 08/16/2011 06:44 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote:
>>>>> On 08/16/2011 06:36 PM, Gary Martin wrote:
>>>>>> On 16 Aug 2011, at 17:30, Simon Schampijer wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 08/16/2011 06:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the screen shots. For the grey version the stroke should
>>>>>>>>> be grey
>>>>>>>>> and the fill white (to match the background) so that the icon
>>>>>>>>> detail is
>>>>>>>>> still visible.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> --Gary
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ok. I have applying the same colors than in the neighborhood view for
>>>>>>>> consistency,
>>>>>>>> but is a easy change if we define it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Do you need a screenshot with this colors?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Gonzalo
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I think Gary means this:
>>>>>>> http://dev.laptop.org/~erikos/filter_search/neighborhood_view.png
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Without your patches applied I am getting these results in the
>>>>>>> neighborhood view.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well spotted, yes. I was just checking the access-point and mesh icons
>>>>>> here – didn't have any shared activity icons to see.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> --Gary
>>>>> 
>>>>> And this is how it looks like then in the home view:
>>>>> http://dev.laptop.org/~erikos/filter_search/home-view.png
>>>> 
>>>> Gary, with that change I think the greying out does work nicely. What is
>>>> about the 'unfocusing' of the entry you mentioned yesterday? When would
>>>> this be needed, only after start, but then it grabs focus when for
>>>> example switching the views? Can you flash that out a bit more, I am
>>>> myself a bit unclear on that.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Simon
>>> 
>>> I want to do tarballs today and patch wise Gonzalo's Feature looks good. I was a bit worried about the possible issue described above. How shall we proceed? Do you think it is that much of an issue? As I said, I am a bit unsure myself.
>> 
>> OK I had a bit of a review yesterday and experimented with the old favorites filter implementation (before it was disabled just prior to an old release). The previous filter's negative sides were that: 1) it switched the user from the favourites view to the list view for presenting the results (not obvious for a novice user how to escape that view); 2) that the list view hides all non-matching activities completely from the view (easy to end up with a blank set of filter results if you accidently press a couple of random keys). Gonzalo's feature implementation avoids both those issues, and even allows the ghosted items still to be interacted with, so I'm happy so see it land.
>> 
>> Just to confirm, the new filter visual effect is also used in the neighbourhood and group views for consistancy?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> --Gary
> 
> Thanks a lot Gary for your quick reply! Great that you did the research - and even with a positive result. Sounds good to me then. Will get it into the build and we have until next Monday to adjust visually.

Monday, fab. I didn't think we have made the final call on grey vs. alpha fade yet. Where:

1) grey provides us reliable contrast detail (i.e. not effected by possible low contrast fill/stroke colours) but at the loss of colour information

vs.

2) alpha fade where colour information is preserved but might result in some low contrast icons (especially when seen in XO display monochrome mode).

Regards,
--Gary

> Yes the new filter effect [1] will be the same as in the neighborhood view.
> 
> Regards,
>   Simon
> 
> PS: there is no filter in the groups view, yet...psst Gonzalo psst :)
> 
> [1] http://dev.laptop.org/~erikos/filter_search/home-view.png
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