[Sugar-devel] NetworkManager 0.9

Thomas C Gilliard satellit at bendbroadband.com
Mon Aug 8 10:13:52 EDT 2011



Sascha Silbe wrote:
> Excerpts from Daniel Drake's message of Sat Aug 06 13:08:48 +0200 2011:
>
>   
>> The move represents a shift in design. Previously, Sugar had to
>> implement a dbus service which managed network connections. Now
>> NetworkManager does that for us.
>>     
>
> NetworkManager 0.8 and below already supported system connections, so
> it's not so much a shift as getting rid of one of two options. It might
> be a good intermediate step to switch to NM 0.8 + system connections
> (the original plan of SL#1884 [1]).
>
>   
>> Ubuntu currently ships v0.8, but their next release (Oneric, to be
>> released in October, and which Sugar-0.94 schedule is indirectly based
>> around) will have 0.9.
>>     
>
> I wouldn't take Ubuntu as a reference here because the last few Ubuntu
> releases didn't support Sugar too well. I've even stopped supporting
> Ubuntu in sugar-jhbuild (though I've heard Alekseys "sweets" supports
> Ubuntu, even including Browse).
>   
Here are some test Ubuntu HD installs:

native install:
 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Ubuntu#Sugar_Desktop_0.88.1_on_Ubuntu_11.04
 (0.88.x sugar and  0.90.3 which is better on jabber.sugarlabs.org since 
alsroot's jabber fixes.)
 I have been told that "gnome classic" will not be on next Ubuntu version
sweets-sugar:
 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Ubuntu#Sugar-desktop_0.88_on_Ubuntu_10.04_and_10.10

Tom Gilliard
satellit

> Debian Wheezy still has NM 0.8 (some 0.9 pre-release is available in
> experimental). There's a good chance it will have NM 0.9 before it
> freezes, though.
>
> With my Dextrose hat on, I'd like to see us move to NM 0.9 for the next
> release. With my Sugar hat on, I'm worried about large changes
> introducing a lot of regressions, like with Telepathy. While moving to
> system connections is large enough to be of concern itself, the
> additional changes required for NM 0.9 increase the risk (though I'm not
> sure by how much).
>
> Sascha
>
> [1] https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1884
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