[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] adding /home/walter/Documents to volume toolbar

[Walter Bender]

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Thomas C Gilliard
<satellit at bendbroadband.com> wrote:
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> Walter Bender wrote:
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> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Simon Schampijer <simon at schampijer.de>
> wrote:
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> On 07/06/2011 10:29 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
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> From: Walter Bender<walter.bender at gmail.com>
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> This patch adds $HOME/Documents to the volume toolbar in the Journal view.
> The rationale is to make it easier for people to move files in and out of
> the data store from the file system -- a feature oft requested by
> teachers.
> It also means that Sugar activities can more readily access files
> generated
> outside of Sugar -- another feature requested by teachers.
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> Note that this patch requires the inclusion of a new icon, user-documents,
> that is included in a separate patch.
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> The current version of this patch reflects feedback from Sascha Silbe (See
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2011-July/032200.html)
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> First of all thanks for trying to solve this need. About the approach, I am
> not sure the Journal is a good file browser. The information about the
> hierarchical file system is lost.
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> Not important to the use case IMHO.
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> I presume the use case is to import/export
> data from the Journal, similar to the view for an external device.
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> Exactly.
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> I actually do not like that neither ;p For large file systems the current
> Journal code takes a long time to scan and then one gets a view of files
> where the expected ordering is lost. Not sure how to do that better besides
> including a file browser, though.
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> Browse is fine for browsing the hierarchy, but that is not the use
> case here. Teacher often create files outside of Sugar. Having a
> simple way to access those files from within Sugar is the goal.
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> This works in F15 Soas-coconut;
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> ASLO install sugar commander 7.xo
> yum install gedit
> gedit
> create test.txt with gedit in /home
> use sugar-commander to see file outside of journal and then use bottom bar:
> "Copy File to the Journal"
> open file in journal.
> (works for .txt and .jpg files) no connection to .pdf files in journal (as
> read is non functional)
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> Wish this sugar-commander exchange capability (2nd bar at bottom) could be
> reversed
> also need to sugarize evince  so it can start .pdf files transferred into
> the journal.
>  (Maybe not save them once opened for security / just close with no changes)
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> sugar-commander will also import a file from a 2nd USB into the journal.

sugar-commander is a fine solution, but it introduces several extra
steps: launching SC and copying the file. With the proposed patch, any
activity would have direct access through the Journal or the Chooser.
IMHO, the extra steps are two too many and it means another activity
maintain and for which to provide training materials.

regards.

-walter
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> Tom Gilliard
> satellit
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> (Every
> teacher I have shown this to has been very envious of this feature.)
> Also, it will let kids access their OOffice and Tux files.
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> I have to think about the general approach of how we show files on non
> Journal devices a bit more.
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> I agree that this is a general issue, but why hold up this patch because of
> it?
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> Regards,
>   Simon
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> regards.
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> -walter
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Walter Bender
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