[Sugar-devel] [laptop-accessibility] screenreader for sugar

[Tomeu Vizoso]

[forwarding kind email from Peter Korn, will reply myself tomorrow morning]

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 18:32, Peter Korn <peter.korn at oracle.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Tomeu, gang,
>
> [I'm cc-ing Joanie Diggs, co-maintainer of Orca]
>
> I believe there are 6 key things that need to be done in/for Sugar to enable use of the GNOME accessibility work for folks with vision impairments.  Others more expert in the specific details may correct/amend my comments.  I believe the 6 things are:
>
> The shift of AT-SPI from CORBA to DBUS (in process, not yet completed, but builds of at-spi2 are in the GNOME code repository and if someone would start playing and testing with it on the OLPC, that'd be great!)
> Implementation of ATK by the Sugar UI components (this is the accessibility API that screen readers like Orca use)
> Creating / adapting a magnifier service on Sugar for Orca.  This may be a fairly trivial port of gnome-mag (non-COMPOSITE edition), or it may be a complete re-write
> Porting Orca to Sugar.  This may be fairly trivial, or it may involve a new Sugar-style GUI, etc.
> Adding theme support go Sugar for vision impairments - things like a large-print theme, and inverse theme, etc.
> Ensure 100% keyboard operability of Sugar
>
> Tomeu - are there folks in sugar-devel who have cycles to work on these things?
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Peter
>
> On 9/7/2010 12:49 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 20:15, Esteban Arias <earias at plan.ceibal.edu.uy> wrote:
>
>
> no, I tested with gnome desktop.
>
>
> Ok, I can help you get in touch with the GNOME team that works on
> accessibility if you want. They are very dedicated, friendly and
> talented bunch. Collabora and other companies also provide services
> related to accessibility and GNOME.
>
> But nobody else than us is going to fix accessibility in Sugar so
> that's why I'm asking if anybody here has interest in working on this.
> The first need is finding someone who can tell us what needs to be
> improved in Sugar so it can be used by people with no or very low
> vision.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tomeu
>
>
>
> 2010/9/3 Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 18:25, Esteban Arias <earias at plan.ceibal.edu.uy>
> wrote:
>
>
> xo-1.0 | F11 | Dextrose version | Gnome desktop | orca 2.26.3
>
> If I set: "run at startup"
> orca run correctly.
>
>
> Hi Esteban,
>
> to clarify, you configure orca in some way so it runs when sugar
> starts up and it reads what is on the screen?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tomeu
>
>
>
> If I excecute "orca" from Terminal, shows error:
> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/mouse_review.py:189: Warning:
> invalid
> uninstantiatable type `(null)' in cast to `GdkDisplayX11'
>     self._mouseDwellTimeout(event.detail1, event.detail2)
>
> Displays Preferences dialog, but dont reads screen.
>
> Regards,
> Esteban Arias.
>
> 2010/9/2 Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 14:51, Esteban Arias <earias at plan.ceibal.edu.uy>
> wrote:
>
>
> I install orca on xo 1.0 with gnome for f11.
> If I config to start session with orca, runs ok. But if I execute
> orca
> from
> terminal, dont run correctly:
>
>
> Hi Esteban,
>
> could be that your email arrived to us incomplete?
>
> Regards,
>
> Tomeu
>
>
>
> 2010/9/1 pbrobinson at gmail.com <pbrobinson at gmail.com>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org>
> wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 14:10, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org>
> wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 14:08, Esteban Arias
> <earias at plan.ceibal.edu.uy> wrote:
>
>
> hi,
> we can colaborate with this proyect.
>
>
> Excelent, have you tried already orca with Sugar? And with GNOME?
>
>
> I would say that the next step is for someone who knows how orca
> is
> used to give it a try and file tickets for the biggest issues. Not
> sure we can make much more until then.
>
>
> The gnome guys mentioned this the other day and there's going to be
> some more work done within gnome hopefully for F-14. So hopefully we
> should be looking better for that release.
>
> Peter
>
>
> --
>     Esteban Arias
>     Investigación y Desarrollo - Plan Ceibal
>     Avda. Italia 6201
>     Montevideo - Uruguay.
>     Tel.: 2601.57.73 Interno 2228
>     E-mail : earias at plan.ceibal.edu.uy
>
>
>
>
> --
>     Esteban Arias
>     Investigación y Desarrollo - Plan Ceibal
>     Avda. Italia 6201
>     Montevideo - Uruguay.
>     Tel.: 2601.57.73 Interno 2228
>     E-mail : earias at plan.ceibal.edu.uy
>
>
>
>
> --
>     Esteban Arias
>     Investigación y Desarrollo - Plan Ceibal
>     Avda. Italia 6201
>     Montevideo - Uruguay.
>     Tel.: 2601.57.73 Interno 2228
>     E-mail : earias at plan.ceibal.edu.uy
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> accessibility mailing list
> accessibility at lists.laptop.org
> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/accessibility
>
>
> --
>
> Peter Korn | Accessibility Principal
> Phone: +1 650 5069522
> 500 Oracle Parkway | Redwood City, CA 94065
> Oracle is committed to developing practices and products that help protect the environment
> _______________________________________________
> accessibility mailing list
> accessibility at lists.laptop.org
> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/accessibility
>