[Sugar-devel] Possible copyright infringement in activities.sl.o

[Tomeu Vizoso]

On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 15:09, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Gabriel Eirea <geirea at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Well, we have the same problem at ceibaljam.org.
>>
>> The thing is, these games are being uploaded by 13-yr old kids. They
>> discovered how to package activities in two ways:
>>
>> 1) using Pippy's "export as .xo" function. They download games from
>> pygame.org and copy them at the right place in one of Pippy's
>> generated xo files.
>>
>> 2) using Flavio's flash wrapper
>> (http://ceibaljam.org/drupal/sites/default/files/JAMactivityFlash.activity.xo).
>> This simply requires putting swf files in a folder and zipping the xo
>> file.
>>
>> I think it is a very interesting result, but I agree it is difficult
>> to make them understand about licenses and such. We had to take down
>> many projects from ceibaljam.org because of this. I contacted them and
>> tried to explain the situation.
>>
>> ¿Anyone has any suggestion on how to proceed such that we don't
>> discourage them to hack further?
>
> Maybe we should encourage them to set up their own hosting site and in
> the process establish their own guidelines for what they consider
> publishable. Having to be personally responsible for establishing such
> guidelines will be a great opportunity for them to learn. (In my
> experience it is often the case that when the children are in the
> position of establishing the rules, they end up with a very
> conservative framework.)

Sounds like a good idea, Google sites could work?

Regards,

Tomeu

> -walter
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Gabriel
>>
>>
>> 2010/10/9 Tim McNamara <paperless at timmcnamara.co.nz>:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> This morning, I tested juegos_flash-2. It's just a sample of free (no cost)
>>> flash games from the Internet. I don't think Sugar Labs is be allowed to
>>> distribute them.
>>>
>>> Apart from these legal concerns, I also have some ethical ones. The package
>>> includes a game that teaches users how to mix cocktails. Another one of the
>>> activities is called "Smack your ex".
>>>
>>> Here are my raw notes from the session:
>>>
>>> ## juegos_flash-2
>>>  - coloured icon
>>>  - flash would wouldn't render the chess board at the start
>>>  - seems to be a compilation of non-free flash games from various sites
>>>  - gnash gave me English menus, everything else in Spanish
>>>
>>>  - "Penales"
>>>    - "All rights reserved Flashfooty.com" FTW
>>>    - games failed to load after 20 secs
>>>
>>>  - "Penales2"
>>>   -  "Games1.com" Ad ??
>>>   - in English
>>>   - selecting a team didn't seem to do anything
>>>
>>>  - "EncontrarObjectos"
>>>    - failed to load in < 20 secs on XO-1.5
>>>
>>>  - "Bar"
>>>    - "Welcome to our pre-party cocktail mixing game for cocktail
>>>      connoisseurs... or not as the case may be!" - omg, it's actually
>>>      a game about alcohol consumption
>>>    - kinda cute, in it's own way. Provides instructions along the way,
>>>      which is what I had expected from spirolaterals
>>>
>>>  - "Cocinarpizza"
>>>    - seemed unresponsive to the XO's mousepad
>>>
>>>  - "Ajedrez"
>>>    - argh, flashing chess game again
>>>
>>>  - "Futbal"
>>>    - ran very slowly
>>>    - when missing a goal, the text is "undefined"
>>>
>>>  - "Tesoro"
>>>    - loaded well, a little slow on XO-1.5
>>>    - teacher seemed to be silent
>>>
>>>  - "Pes2002"
>>>    - heavily screen flickering (gave up after 20sec)
>>>
>>>  - "Bolos"
>>>    - failed to load once "Play" was clicked"
>>>
>>>  - "QueHariasConTuEx"
>>>    - from "whackyourex.com"
>>>    - game does what it says
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards, Tim
>>>
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