[Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.88 packages

[Tomeu Vizoso]

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 20:15, Bernie Innocenti <bernie at codewiz.org> wrote:
> El Thu, 13-05-2010 a las 19:30 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribió:
>
>> Are your patches in this queue?
>>
>> http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/query?status=accepted&status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&order=priority&col=id&col=summary&col=component&col=milestone&col=status&col=type&col=priority&milestone=!0.90&keywords=~r%3F
>>
>> If not, please read the code review process in the wiki and make sure
>> you follow it.
>
> Does this imply that we're giving up on the new email-based review
> process? Some maintainers have already adopted it and there seemed to be
> general consensus on it, except maybe for some procedural details.

This implies that we are using the old process because nobody has come
with a concrete proposal for changing it. AFAICS, the discussion has
stalled because of lack of interest from its proponents. Once we agree
on specific changes, the process docs in the wiki will be updated and
it will come into effect.

>> Also, today I tried to review a patch of you in trac that had
>> bitrotten because you hadn't updated it after review on the ml. Please
>> make sure this doesn't happen by updating the attached patches or by
>> pasting a link to the thread in archives.
>
> What's the ticket number?

Have commented in the ticket, don't remember the number.

>> There's quite a bit of things that non-maintainers can do to speed up
>> this process, but unfortunately my last call for help was ignored. If
>> people really care about this, please do reviews so that when the
>> maintainer gets to it it can just make a quick read and set the flag
>> to r+. It would also helped if submitters read the code guidelines in
>> the first place, of course.
>
> Almost all the patches I've seen posted to the list where promptly
> reviewed by one or multiple people.
>
> Please, don't ask contributors to also file a bug in Trac, attach the
> patch and set the "r+" keyword before you can merge otherwise good
> patches.

And I'm supposed to track patches in the ml myself? I thought we
wanted to reduce the load on the maintainers because we had few?

>> Note that I'm still waiting for your replies to the comments on your
>> post "[PATCH 1/2] This fixes part of
>> http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1876". (And again, make sure that
>> trac has a reference to the outcome of that review).
>
> I'll give it a look today.
>
>
>> > Ideally, some of the existing contributors would step up and become
>> > maintainers of specific modules or releases. I'm available to maintain
>> > the 0.88 branch unless someone else wants to and I offered to become a
>> > review peer for all the sugar-* modules.
>>
>> Thank you, that's a very generous offer. Why don't you start by
>> pre-reviewing the patches in the queue so current maintainers see you
>> have the required experience? That way you win twice: speed up the
>> queue and become a maintainer yourself.
>
> Perhaps you haven't noticed that I'm *already* pre-reviewing plenty of
> patches. Only, I do it on sugar-devel@, which is what we had agreed to
> do a few weeks ago after discussing it extensively on IRC with you.

I have noticed that several of the patches that I have reviewed this
week could have been approved by now if somebody would have
pre-reviewed them.

> iirc, you were opposed only to let any contributors approve patches for
> Sugar modules with missing or unresponsive maintainers.

I don't understand what you mean, can you rephrase?

> What shall we do to resolve the current uncertainty quickly? Shall we
> vote the new review process with Selectricity?

How can you vote before you have a proposal? Or the proposal is "do
whatever the linux kernel does"?

>> > BTW: I did some testing yesterday with F11-XO1-0.88 and results are very
>> > encouraging. I'm seeing some issues related to font-size and window
>> > borders. We need to figure out why these things work well in
>> > sugar-emulator in 1200x900 and not on the XO-1. I tried upgrading
>> > Metacity, but it did not seem to help.
>>
>> Can you get some screenshots? (But please create a new thread)
>
> Ok, I'll do it when I announce the build. Maybe it will happen by this
> weekend.

Thanks,

Tomeu


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