[Sugar-devel] Updating SoaS CD Helper?

[Art Hunkins]

Here's what I know about the SoaS CD Helper:

On Pentium III machines (Win 2000, ME, 98) SoaS Strawberry and Blueberry 
boot fine; Mirabelle (Fedora 13) doesn't.

Mirabelle fails (gets stuck) after the completion of the SoaS 1 bar at the 
bottom of the screen, with the message:
Unable to ennumerate USB device on port X (1 or 2)

FWIW as well, my fairly modern dual-core AMD desktop also fails when booting 
Mirabelle from CD Helper. This too is right after completion of the SoaS 1 
bar, but with blank screen except for a blinking dot in upper left corner. 
Keyboard is active, and pressing Alt-F4 brings up a login screen:
localhost login:
above which appears:
Fedora release 13 (Goddard)

My desktop also fails to boot SoaS *Blueberry* from CD Helper. Here the 
message, on otherwise blank screen, is:
BD: barrier-based sync failed on dm-0:8  disabling barriers

Bottom line?: Perhaps if CD Helper could be gotten to work on current 
systems (especially with Mirabelle), it would also work on the older 
machines.

I'd be happy to be a tester, especially as I've a variety of older units.

Art Hunkins

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Walter Bender" <walter.bender at gmail.com>
To: "Development of live Sugar distributions" <soas at lists.sugarlabs.org>
Cc: "Art Hunkins" <abhunkin at uncg.edu>; "Mel Chua" <mel at melchua.com>; "iaep" 
<iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org>; <sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org>; 
<fedora-education-list at redhat.com>; <olpc at lists.fedoraproject.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Heads-up: POSSE folks hacking in 
Fedora/Sugar thisweek and next


> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Art Hunkins <abhunkin at uncg.edu> wrote:
>>> I've noticed that neither the SoaS CD Boot Helper nor the SoaS Floppy 
>>> Disk
>>> Boot Helper manage to boot SoaS Mirabelle (Fedora 13). (For that matter, 
>>> the
>>> Floppy Disk Helper doesn't boot anything but Strawberry.)
>>
>> I don't think Floppy Disks are relevant at all. I doubt any of the
>> developers actually have a floppy drive to test.
>>
>> For the boot helper CD..... I have no interest in getting it working,
>> I have asked people to provide me specific devices that have problems
>> and need the boot helper CD. The only one i've ever got back is newer
>> Mac's. I know what that problem is. For the rest no one has bothered
>> to send me the specs so I haven't bothered spending the time.
>>
>
> I will dig up the old thread where I did offer the specs of the
> machines we encounter in the Boston Public Schools that will not boot
> directly off of USB, but are quite happy with a Helper CD. This is
> also true of the computer we have worked with at the YMCA. I suspect
> this is true of most of the computers in elementary schools and
> available to afterschool programs in much of the urban United States.
> Think Windows-2000-era machines and you will know what is in schools
> States-side.
>
> -walter
>
>>> Is anybody interested in working on this, or are we basically abandoning
>>> older computers?
>>
>> See above.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>> Art Hunkins
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mel Chua" <mel at melchua.com>
>>> To: <fedora-education-list at redhat.com>; <olpc at lists.fedoraproject.org>;
>>> "iaep" <iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org>; <sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org>; 
>>> "SoaS"
>>> <soas at lists.sugarlabs.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 10:48 AM
>>> Subject: [Sugar-devel] Heads-up: POSSE folks hacking in Fedora/Sugar
>>> thisweek and next
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Next week we'll have another - slightly larger - batch from RIT doing
>>>> the same thing, with myself, Chris Tyler, and Luke Macken focusing more
>>>> on how to make Fedora a better environment for
>>>> running/deploying/developing Sugar - if you have any thoughts in this
>>>> direction, please send comments our way! (Things we've come up with so
>>>> far: general Python development stuff, liveusb-creator hacks, SVG
>>>> rendering working strangely in different recent versions of Fedora... 
>>>> we
>>>> need to turn this into a proper ticket queue.)
>>>>
>>>> Just wanted to let y'all know. I'll blog this to Planet in a moment.
>>>>
>>>> --Mel
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