[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Problem with Pippy layout on <=0.84

[Aleksey Lim]

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 08:04:35PM +0530, Anish Mangal wrote:
> >> > I agree that 'hiding' the action buttons away in a toolbar is rather
> >> > unfortunate :-( , but wouldn't placing buttons as in the original
> >> > layout eat up vertical space?
> >>
> >> No more than before (as has been the design for years).
> >
> > The old design with the buttons in the middle always struck me as
> > non-standard in Sugar.
> >
> > I prefer the new design with all buttons in the toolbars. If it causes
> > problems with Sugar 0.84, maybe we could simply mark the new bundle as
> > 0.86-0.88 only?
> 
> There is another way around this. alsroot, bemasc suggested using a
> local 'toolkit' version. This can be seen implemented in the
> "fully-bundled" branches of flipstiks, cartoonbuilder, speak. The idea
> is to use a local toolkit copy so that all activities are consistent
> across 0.82-0.88 and use the >=0.86 toolbar.
> 
> In the case of pippy, this means that the action buttons will always
> be visible on the main activity toolbar. Here [1] is an xo with the
> same implemented. This has been tested to work on 0.82-xo1, 0.84-xo1
> (build 301), 0.88-jhbuild.
> 
> Does anyone see roadblocks in using this scheme?

Just to inform..
This hack with bundled toolkit, is just a workaround.
The regular way will be using polyol dependency (when sugar will
understand dependecies) which will provide the same python API as current
sugar-toolkit but will work (it already works in simple cases in GC)
on all, popular in the field, sugars (also, it is vala based and the same
code works not only in python but also, e.g., in GC).

> [1] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~anish/Pippy-37-toolbar-fix-new.xo
> 
> > You are correct, and also wrong.  Alexey (alsroot) created a system called
> > "toolkit" that lets you backport the toolbars to older Sugar versions.
> >
> > """
> > < bemasc> but could m_anish use an old version of "toolkit" to get new
> >                toolbars across Sugar versions?
> > < alsroot> bemasc: yup, in repos like flipstiks, cartoonbuilder and
> >                 speak, there are "fully-bundled" brnach w/ "toolkit"
> > directory
> >                 which is new toolbars that work on 0.82
> > """
> >
> > Using that has the advantages of only requiring the maintenance of one set
> > of toolbars, and achieving consistency across Sugar versions.  It has the
> > disadvantage of breaking consistency with other Activities on <0.86.
> >
> 
> Anish
> 
> >
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> >
> >
> 

-- 
Aleksey