[Sugar-devel] behaviour of F-keys on XO HS

[Gonzalo Odiard]

Yeah
How we detect what keyboard is present?

Gonzalo

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Paul Fox <pgf at laptop.org> wrote:
> > i'd like to bring this discussion to a conclusion.
> >
> > i'm starting to be a fan of this proposal of bert's -- it's very
> > simple, keeps the keys the same in sugar and in gnome, and on
> > membrane and non-membrane keyboards, it's backwards compatible
> > with existing use on XO-1, and the volume/ brightness keys remain
> > easily discoverable.  it does require that sugar respond to F5
> > and F6 for "journal" and "frame" -- i still don't have a feeling
> > for whether that's an issue or not, and if so, how big.
>
> The only activity I am aware of that uses F5 and F6 on the XO is the
> most recent version of Paint that Gonzolo is working on. Presumably
> these keymaps could be grabbed by Paint when running on an OLPC XO 1.0
> or when we detect the membrane keyboard. Otherwise, we could keep the
> mapping as Bert suggests.
>
> > any yeas or nays?
>
> Yeah.
> >
> > paul
> >
> >
> > bert wrote:
> >  >
> >  > On 17.07.2010, at 09:31, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
> >  >
> >  > > El Thu, 15-07-2010 a las 23:08 -0400, Paul Fox escribió:
> >  > >> i think everyone (except
> >  > >> apple, i'm learning tonight) agrees this is the correct setup
> >  > >> when not in sugar.
> >  > >
> >  > > Lenovo also seems to be switching to the Apple layout:
> >  > >
> >  > >
> http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/thinkpadedgepost16.jpg
> >  > >
> >  >
> http://www.thinkpads.com/wp-content/gallery/lenovo-thinkpad-edge-13-review/lenov
> >  > o-thinkpad-edge-13-keyboard.jpg
> >  > >
> >  > > Almost all the historic F-key mappings have an alternative CTRL+key
> or
> >  > > ALT+key mapping in modern HIGs. Keys to control laptop volume and
> >  > > brightness are accessed much more frequently, so it's foreseeable
> that
> >  > > over time they will supplant the F-keys in PC keyboards.
> >  >
> >  > +1
> >  >
> >  > IMHO pressing "fn" to get "f1" to "f10" makes sense. In my daily
> routine I much
> >  > more often change volume or brightness than use the numbered F keys.
> >  >
> >  > Looking at this again
> >  >
> >  >      http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Spanish_Non-membrane_Keyboard
> >  >
> >  > I propose:
> >  >
> >  >      f1-f8 produce F key codes both with and without the fn key
> >  >      f9-f12 produce F codes only with fn, and volume/brightness events
> >  > without fn.
> >  >
> >  > So holding down fn always gets you the F key codes, you can change
> >  > volume/brightness without modifier, and as a bonus you can use the
> first eight
> >  > F keys even without the fn key.
> >  >
> >  > This mapping should work both in Sugar and outside.
> >  >
> >  > - Bert -
> >  >
> >  >
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> > =---------------------
> >  paul fox, pgf at laptop.org
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Gonzalo Odiard
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