[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity
Carlo Falciola
cfalciola at yahoo.it
Thu Jan 14 06:39:36 EST 2010
I attached a very basic mockup idea ...
no idea how hard could be to code it...
ciao carlo
--- Mer 13/1/10, Carlo Falciola <cfalciola at yahoo.it> ha scritto:
> Da: Carlo Falciola <cfalciola at yahoo.it>
> Oggetto: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity
> A: sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> Data: Mercoledì 13 gennaio 2010, 19:27
> >On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:15 AM,
> Gary C Martin <gary at >garycmartin.com> wrote:
> > On 11 Jan 2010, at 20:44, Walter Bender wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Simon Schampijer
> <simon at schampijer.de> wrote:
> >>> On 01/11/2010 06:12 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote:
> >>>> My feeling regarding all this is that the
> problem is deeper than
> >>>> finding a way to Resume Latest or Start
> New from the home screen.
> >>>>
> >>>> IMO, the whole idea of Resume Latest is
> broken and needs to be
> >>>> ditched. The Journal is the place to
> resume activities. We need to
> >>>> make the Journal more discoverable and
> usable instead of trying to
> >>>> mash its features into the home screen.
> >>>
> >>> My findings are as well that the Journal is
> the natural place to resume
> >>> an activity. The home view is the natural way
> to create a new activity,
> >>> since it contains a graphical representation
> with the available activities.
> >>>
> >>> I think resuming is a secondary option we can
> provide, but should not be
> >>> the default option when you click on the icon.
> To overcome the issue of
> >>> constantly creating new activities I liked the
> 'open the full palette on
> >>> left click' option. The learner is then
> provided with options to choose
> >>> from.
> >>
> >> I like this too. It is worth mentioning that on
> non-OLPC-XO hardware,
> >> there is no easily discovered (or typed) dedicated
> key or mouse
> >> movement to get you to the Journal--one of the
> reasons we have also
> >> discussed having the Journal icon always available
> in the Home View (I
> >> am in favor of always at the bottom of the
> circle). All of these
> >> changes collectively may help.
> >
> > I've been trying to stay out of this discussion so
> far, watching for what might stick. So summing up so far:
> >
> > - Always show Journal in the home ring, though I'd
> favour having it as the first item, so that would make it
> always at the top of the circle ;-)
> >
> > - Home view reverted back to the 'start new' activity
> focus, all icons >are un-coloured.
> >
> > - Single left click always reveals the palette with
> the 'start new' >item at the top and 'resume' items
> below. Some minus design points here >as 'start new' and
> 'resume' will both become 2 clicks away, and take >extra
> palette cursoring dexterity to reach. You could argue both
> 'start >new' and 'resume' will drop to second level
> features with 'activity >palette information' becoming
> the top level home feature. Being able to >read (some of)
> this palette text would also now be required, so our
> >'low floor' just got a little higher :-( I do agree
> though that this >provides a compromise between reducing
> Journal spam and preventing the >unintentional overwrite
> of existing Journal work by making the choice >explicit.
> >
> >
> >I am with you until here. I think we need to be very
> careful with the
> >introduction of such additional complexity in the UI.
> Even for older
> >kids, those using the OLPC-XO-1 laptops that have the
> old jumpy
> >touchpad will have a hard time with this.
> >
> >I would urge the design team to explore a few more ways
> to solve this
> >problem spatially rather than temporally.
> I think the two use cases (Resume vs Start a new) are
> either valuable for the home view thats supposed to be the
> main "workplace" of sugar interactions, so I suggest to try
> hard to design an option to have the two use cases directly
> graphically available on the screen real estate, one point
> could be that on average not so many different activity
> could be displayed in the favorites circle, allowing few
> options to show them in a "StartNew" or "Resume" graphic
> option:
> Uncolored icons outside circle, the "resuming" colored
> icons inside in an incomplete circle, and Journal icon in
> centre (down to XO) as to represent even better the idea of
> reflection and research.
> note: the inner circle "resuming "icons should be
> reasonably smaller that the outer ones becouse they do not
> need support the usecase to be easily
> identifiable.
>
> ciao carlo
> >regards.
> >
> >-walter
>
> > Regards,
> > --Gary
> >
> >
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