[Sugar-devel] Exporting sounds and images from Etoys projects

[Bryan Berry]

tks Bert, this is extremely helpful

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de>wrote:

> On 10.01.2010, at 02:51, Bryan Berry wrote:
>
> Bert, we did have Squeak programmers but they all emigrated and are
> difficult to get in touch with.
>
>
> Oh, didn't know they were all gone.
>
> I sat down and wrote a script myself. It's somewhat specific to your Squeak
> image/projects but I'll cc etoys-dev anyway, maybe it's useful to someone. I
> used the image and projects from
>
> http://karma.sugarlabs.org/Squeak.tar.bz2
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> The attached script needs a bit of hand-holding when running inside Squeak.
> Or just download the assets I exported:
>
> http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/OLENepalSqueakAssets.zip
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> Beware, it's 125 MB of PNGs and WAVs. The sounds have their names
> preserved, but the images are just enumerated largest-to-smallest. I didn't
> bother to check for duplicates.
>
> - Bert -
>
> On 10.01.2010, at 02:51, Bryan Berry wrote:
>
> Bert, we did have Squeak programmers but they all emigrated and are
> difficult to get in touch with.
>
> I will bother Surendra, who you met, to see if he can help
>
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de>
>  wrote:
>
>> Well, OLE Nepal does have Squeak programmers, and it should be rather
>> simple for them to write a snippet that exports images and sounds from a
>> loaded project.
>>
>> It's just a bit harder (but I guess not too much) to load each project in
>> a folder and export assets found there (the trick would be to just load the
>> project but not enter it).
>>
>> Extracting them without Squeak is rather infeasible.
>>
>> - Bert -
>>
>> On 09.01.2010, at 16:39, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>> >
>> > Adding sugar-devel to CC in case Bert wants to say anything
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 16:36, Peter Gijsels <peter.gijsels at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> Vaibhaw,
>> >>
>> >> You seem to imply that there is a (difficult) way to extract them,
>> >> could you elaborate?
>> >>
>> >> Do you think it would be useful to have a simple way to extract these
>> >> assets from a .pr file?
>> >>
>> >> I can try to see if I can come up with something. I'm not guaranteeing
>> >> anything, but I think it might be worth a shot. I think it would be
>> >> more fun than cropping screenshots. ;-)
>> >>
>> >> I have two possible approaches in mind:
>> >> 1) There is probably a central place where the .pr is being read in
>> >> and Morph objects are being constructed. If we intercept objects of
>> >> the correct type we can dump their image data to a file. The trick is
>> >> to find the code that does the deserializing which can be rather
>> >> frustrating in Smalltalk if you are not familiar with the code.
>> >>
>> >> 2) The second approach would be to just walk over all objects, see if
>> >> they are an image, and dump them to files.
>> >>
>> >> Do you have a Squeak development image (with development tools like
>> >> the browser and inspector) from which I can read in these .pr files so
>> >> that I can poke around a bit?
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Peter
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Vaibhaw (Bob) Poddar
>> >> <vaibhawp at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >>> Afraid not. There is no (easy) way to extract the info from the .pr
>> files. I
>> >>> have been just cropping the images out from the screen shots so far.
>> >>>
>> >>> Vaibhaw (Bob) Poddar
>> >>>
>> >>> Nepal Cell. +977.98510.61345
>> >>> India Cell. +91.99999.15661
>> >>> US of A Cell. +1.415.508.4503
>> >>>
>> >>> http://HimalayanTechies.com
>> >>>
>> >>> On 1/9/2010 7:43 PM, Peter Gijsels wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Bryan, Vaibhaw,
>> >>>
>> >>> I've got epaath working on my windows machine.
>> >>>
>> >>> Do I understand correctly that all of the materials of a lesson are
>> >>> contained in one .pr file, e.g. 6_English_actionVerb_3.018.pr? The
>> >>> epaath.image running on the squeak vm loads in that file.
>> >>>
>> >>> Is there an easy way to extract the pictures and sounds from the .pr
>> >>> file of the lesson?
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> Peter
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Vaibhaw (Bob) Poddar
>> >>> <vaibhawp at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Step to get Squeak working on a Windows machine (not sure how on a
>> Linux
>> >>> distribution).
>> >>>
>> >>> Download and install squeak
>> >>> http://www.squeakland.org/download/
>> >>>
>> >>> Replace the etoys.image inside the Etoys/Etyos.app/Contents/Resources
>> with
>> >>> the image file from the E-Paath.
>> >>>
>> >>> That should be it. If you run into any issues I would be happy to look
>> at
>> >>> that.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>>
>> >>> Vaibhaw (Bob) Poddar
>> >>>
>> >>> Nepal Cell. +977.98510.61345
>> >>> India Cell. +91.99999.15661
>> >>> US of A Cell. +1.415.508.4503
>> >>>
>> >>> http://HimalayanTechies.com
>> >>>
>> >>> On 1/7/2010 7:44 AM, Bryan Berry wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> here is the file http://karma.sugarlabs.org/Squeak.tar.bz2
>> >>>
>> >>> These are all the Squeak files in the current EPaath. I am not sure
>> how to
>> >>> actually view the individual projects.
>> >>> Vaibhaw: how do we do that? My Squeak skills are rusty
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Bryan Berry <bryan at olenepal.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> hey Peter,
>> >>> first could u use pastie.org or jsbin.com for small code samples?
>> makes it
>> >>> easier for everyone to view and comment on your code
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Peter Gijsels <
>> peter.gijsels at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On an unrelated note, did you have time to prepare a download link
>> >>> with the Squeak stuff? Tomorrow evening I have some time to have a
>> >>> look at it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> Peter
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Sorry I uploaded most of the files but forget to upload one important
>> >>> file, the squeak image ;). I will upload that now and send you the
>> link
>> >>> shortly
>> >>>
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