[Sugar-devel] Etoys: toolbar

[Simon Schampijer]

Hi Bert,

thanks for the quick feedback.

On 01/06/2010 04:10 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> On 06.01.2010, at 11:54, Simon Schampijer wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Some thoughts that came up today - I will turn into bugs or discard
>> after feedback.
>>
>> Is there a reason the etoys save a copy (keep as) button is not colored
>> like in other activities?
>
> The toolbar is using bitmapped icons, so recoloring is harder. Not impossible though - like, when sharing, the joining buddy's XO icon gets colorized because it uses a vector renderer.

Ok, I see. I am a consistency advocat, that is why I brought this up. 
Maybe one of the designers could comment, if he thinks this consistency 
is worth the technical effort.

>> Is there a reason the stop button is not the most right one like in
>> other activities?
>
> The "toolbar toggle" button was added in the last version and it seemed to make most sense on the far right. Might be going to change though - there is a related ticket you could comment on:
>
> http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-470

It would be great if all the activities have the stop button at the far 
right. For me, putting the fullscreen button left from it works equally 
well. Could not connect to the tracker (502) will try again later.

>> The secondary options of the buttons in the toolbar have different ways
>> of accessing.
>> - the load from server/save to server is accessed by holding the mouse
>> button pressed longer
>> - the share button opens the options after one click
>> - the store/lager opens other options after one click (the secondary
>> toolbar has a different layout than the share options)
>
> There are no hover-palettes in Etoys. The long-click to reveal "hidden" save and load options predates Sugar. Same for the Supplies flap, which explains its look. The only new thing is the share button's menu, which was made to look similar to the regular Sugar palettes.
>
> Now that you point it out it does indeed feel inconsistent compared to other activities. A ticket may be in order (though I have no real idea how to solve it).

The problem is, that for the share button you need to click to get to 
the options. In the case of the load/save buttons you access the options 
by different ways of clicking. Ideally one has to switch to the mode of 
the other: For example the load/save button opens a "palette" when 
clicked once that displays the options.

Regards,
    Simon