[Sugar-devel] g.sl.o issues for Karma and perhaps other activities

[Tomeu Vizoso]

On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 03:50, Bryan Berry <bryan at olenepal.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Wade Brainerd <wadetb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This sounds like the ideal conditions for Git.
>>
>> Just set up a server at your office using any Git related software you
>> want, like Gitorious or even GitWeb.  Developers set their projects up
>> on your local server, and when they reach some level of stability they
>> create public repositories on git.sugarlabs.org.
>
> I would like to set up gitorious but not sure how difficult this would be
>
>>
>> Do all your development on your local server, and every once a while
>> push the changes over to SL.
>>
>>  git push gitorious at git.sugarlabs.org:myproject/mainline.git
>>
>> If SL people want to make changes, they clone the repository on
>> git.sugarlabs.org and push to it.
>
> We will have about 60 individual repos by April and hopefully several
> hundred by the end of 2010. It will be impractical and error-prone is we
> have to create each repo twice, once on our local server and once on the SL
> server. Is there a way to automate this?

Guess you can cook a cron job quite easily, but I don't see any way
around having only one writeable instance and the others read only,
unless someone wants to take care of resolving conflicts.

Regards,

Tomeu


>
>>
>>  git push gitorious at git.sugarlabs.org:myproject/wadebs-clone.git
>>
>> The SL person lets the author know by email, and the author pulls the
>> changes to their local repository, merges them, and pushes them to
>> your internal server.
>>
>>  git pull gitorious at git.sugarlabs.org:myproject/wadebs-clone.git
>>  .. do merge work
>>  git push username at local-git-server:myproject.git
>>
>> Does this help at all?
>>
>> -Wade
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Bryan Berry <bryan at olenepal.org> wrote:
>> > I want to discuss some issues for managing Karma lessons on glso. Please
>> > let
>> > it be clear that I am not criticizing the infrastructure team
>> > __at_all__. I
>> > think they are doing a great job. The issues I am encountering have to
>> > do
>> > with underlying tools and some issues specific to developers working in
>> > countries w/ crappy bandwidth, such as Nepal.
>> > Some of the main goals of the Karma Project are to get more developers
>> > in
>> > general involved in creating content for Sugar and to make OLE Nepal's
>> > content development more accessible and open to developers inside and
>> > outside Nepal. We have a full-time team of 7 sw engineers, 3 graphic
>> > designers, and 3 teachers working on content. It would be a crying shame
>> > if
>> > we can't work with the larger community.
>> > One big problem for devs here in Nepal is that international bandwidth
>> > is
>> > both lousy and expensive. Conversely, w/in Kathmandu bandwidth is
>> > relatively
>> > high-speed and cheap. I have up to 2 Mbps w/in Nepal but get around 30
>> > kbps
>> > for a site hosted outside Nepal.
>> > The Karma repos are big and there will soon be many. The main Karma repo
>> > will be 10-15 MB and each individual lesson will be in its own repo,
>> > usually
>> > 2-4 MB. I hope to have about 60 individual karma activities under source
>> > control. That will be easily 200 MB. Transferring files of that size
>> > over
>> > slow international links will really cramp our development cycle. At the
>> > same time we need for the Karma lessons to be easily accessible
>> > internationally.
>> > A working solution will have to start with a server inside Nepal hosting
>> > the
>> > Karma content. OLE Nepal can likely provide the server space. Would it
>> > be
>> > possible for us to set up our own instance of gitorious? My impression
>> > is
>> > that everyone is waiting to move to the gitorious instance but something
>> > is
>> > holding it up. Even if g.sl.o migrates to
>> > gitorious.org how difficult would it be to set up an instance in Nepal.
>> > Or
>> > will it be too hard to set up a gitorious instance and we should just
>> > use
>> > something simple for Karma like cgit?
>> > So say we do set up an instance of gitorious here in Nepal. How could we
>> > make it easy for others outside Nepal to access the code and contribute
>> > back? If you are outside Nepal, downloading from a server in Nepal also
>> > sucks due to the bandwidth issue. Would it be feasible to set up a
>> > read-only
>> > mirror of Nepal's repositories on the Sugar infrastructure?
>> > I would like there to be a writable set of repositories on an
>> > international
>> > server but I can't imagine how the this mirror would sync w/ the Nepal
>> > server without lots of nasty conflicts.
>> > Sugaristas, please let me know what you think
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