[Sugar-devel] g.sl.o issues for Karma and perhaps other activities

[Wade Brainerd]

This sounds like the ideal conditions for Git.

Just set up a server at your office using any Git related software you
want, like Gitorious or even GitWeb.  Developers set their projects up
on your local server, and when they reach some level of stability they
create public repositories on git.sugarlabs.org.

Do all your development on your local server, and every once a while
push the changes over to SL.

  git push gitorious at git.sugarlabs.org:myproject/mainline.git

If SL people want to make changes, they clone the repository on
git.sugarlabs.org and push to it.

  git push gitorious at git.sugarlabs.org:myproject/wadebs-clone.git

The SL person lets the author know by email, and the author pulls the
changes to their local repository, merges them, and pushes them to
your internal server.

  git pull gitorious at git.sugarlabs.org:myproject/wadebs-clone.git
  .. do merge work
  git push username at local-git-server:myproject.git

Does this help at all?

-Wade


On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Bryan Berry <bryan at olenepal.org> wrote:
> I want to discuss some issues for managing Karma lessons on glso. Please let
> it be clear that I am not criticizing the infrastructure team __at_all__. I
> think they are doing a great job. The issues I am encountering have to do
> with underlying tools and some issues specific to developers working in
> countries w/ crappy bandwidth, such as Nepal.
> Some of the main goals of the Karma Project are to get more developers in
> general involved in creating content for Sugar and to make OLE Nepal's
> content development more accessible and open to developers inside and
> outside Nepal. We have a full-time team of 7 sw engineers, 3 graphic
> designers, and 3 teachers working on content. It would be a crying shame if
> we can't work with the larger community.
> One big problem for devs here in Nepal is that international bandwidth is
> both lousy and expensive. Conversely, w/in Kathmandu bandwidth is relatively
> high-speed and cheap. I have up to 2 Mbps w/in Nepal but get around 30 kbps
> for a site hosted outside Nepal.
> The Karma repos are big and there will soon be many. The main Karma repo
> will be 10-15 MB and each individual lesson will be in its own repo, usually
> 2-4 MB. I hope to have about 60 individual karma activities under source
> control. That will be easily 200 MB. Transferring files of that size over
> slow international links will really cramp our development cycle. At the
> same time we need for the Karma lessons to be easily accessible
> internationally.
> A working solution will have to start with a server inside Nepal hosting the
> Karma content. OLE Nepal can likely provide the server space. Would it be
> possible for us to set up our own instance of gitorious? My impression is
> that everyone is waiting to move to the gitorious instance but something is
> holding it up. Even if g.sl.o migrates to
> gitorious.org how difficult would it be to set up an instance in Nepal. Or
> will it be too hard to set up a gitorious instance and we should just use
> something simple for Karma like cgit?
> So say we do set up an instance of gitorious here in Nepal. How could we
> make it easy for others outside Nepal to access the code and contribute
> back? If you are outside Nepal, downloading from a server in Nepal also
> sucks due to the bandwidth issue. Would it be feasible to set up a read-only
> mirror of Nepal's repositories on the Sugar infrastructure?
> I would like there to be a writable set of repositories on an international
> server but I can't imagine how the this mirror would sync w/ the Nepal
> server without lots of nasty conflicts.
> Sugaristas, please let me know what you think
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