[Sugar-devel] [POLL] Non Sugar Platform activities in Activity Library

[Edward Cherlin]

And will also be able to print out a pocket edition of my preferred
scriptures in large type, in the original languages and English or
other translation. ^_^

How big does flash have to get in order to make this a non-issue?

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 13:13, Aleksey Lim <alsroot at member.fsf.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 07:01:35PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote:
>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 04:48:27PM +0000, Aleksey Lim wrote:
>>
>> >     bundle all dependencies
>> >     but bundle 50M(if we include ARM support it will be 75M) for every
>> >     java based activity looks overkill
>> IMO the only sane way to handle large dependencies, esp. language ones,
>> is relying on distro packages.
>>
>> >     using more flexible scheme when we have
>> >     * Sugar Platform and majority of fully bundled activities (since
>> >       dependencies were included to SP)
>> >     * minority which have non-SP dependencies, such dependencies could
>> > be
>> >       * bundled, if they are small
>> >       * installed on demand from native packaging systems
>> >       * fetched on demand
>> This looks like the way to go, esp. the "installed on demand from native
>> packaging systems" part. Rely on distro packages as much as possible,
>> you'll avoid quite some trouble the distributors have already gone
>> through for you (e.g. xulrunner paths differ on distros).
>> Distro packages are also
>> a) easily and transparently cachable on a local server (apt-cacher,
>> squid, ...)
>> b) fetched from the widespread mirror network of distributions rather
>> than the few ones hosting Sugar stuff (APT can even use bittorrent or
>> custom P2P software like apt-p2p)
>> c) usually more trustworthy than random builds from some more or less
>> anonymous source
>> d) actively maintained, including security updates (except for Ubuntu
>> universe/multiverse).
>
> +1024
>
> and 0install is so smart that it will check if required dependency
> * already installed
> * could be installed from native packages and ask PackageKit to install it
> * fallabck to prebuilt blobs
> * fallabck to build from sources in users env
> * say phew
>
> --
> Aleksey
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