[Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SOAS-3: Final Activity List - Attention needed!

Sean DALY sdaly.be at gmail.com
Tue Apr 27 10:16:56 EDT 2010

I'd much rather we work together. Making Sugar and its Activities
robust is a challenge and doing so on Sugar on a Stick even more. We
have a resources problem that needs to be solved; part of the solution
is to make Sugar better known, to developers, to teachers, and to the
industry (OEMs...). It's a chicken-and-egg situation; Sugar could
catch on quickly if robust, but that requires resources we don't have.
But teachers, education buyers, journalists need to be able to see and
touch Sugar, and for that they need a solution (the historical
scarcity of XOs for reviewers has been part of OLPC's PR problem since
the start). Sugar on a Stick has had that role. However, the new
version (as well as it will fulfill a production role) won't fulfill
the demo role. This creates a problem. The version numbers were
marketing numbers (SoaS-1 was beta-1, SoaS-2 was v1, etc.) and
appropriating the number for a version unsuitable for demoing Sugar
means marketing can't work with it.


On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Sean,
> I'm so pleased that you think that all the hard work that Sebastian,
> myself and all the other Sugar developers that have put into the Sugar
> 0.88 release and associated SoaS release is so 0.5. and a whole lot
> less than previous releases. I think your choice is demeaning to the
> hard work that everyone does and without active testing of other
> Activities by other people it only hurts SoaS when things don't work
> because the release team are the only people that test stuff and
> aren't paid full time to do this.
> Peter
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>> As stated previously, it's a mistake for this release to be numbered v3.
>> I won't be able to do anything with it.
>> Sean
>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>> So as it stands the final Activity list that we're pushing for SOAS-3
>>> will be as below unless someone gives me reasonable doubt as to the
>>> release team's (Sebastian and myself) decision.
>>> So the final list is:
>>> - browse
>>> - physics
>>> - turtleart
>>> - irc
>>> - log
>>> - terminal
>>> - Record
>>> - Read
>>> - Write
>>> - Chat.
>>> - etoys
>>> In literally the last 10 minutes Sebastian and I have fixed the Write
>>> issue and over the last 2 weeks with the latest Record release and a
>>> number of fixes and testing I've got Record to what seems to be a
>>> stable and working release. The last of the changes should be in the
>>> daily build from tomorrow (including a fix from sdz for the lack of a
>>> boot screen).
>>> One thing to note is that other than sdz and I there has only been one
>>> other person test and report back on the builds (Thanks Thomas!) so if
>>> you haven't done so until now we are now on the home straight so
>>> please test. I don't want to here the day after release "Blah is
>>> broken" because someone hasn't taken 10 minutes to test the release, I
>>> will be less than impressed!
>>> For those who forget where they can get the daily build you can from this link.
>>> http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/soas/
>>> Regards,
>>> The SoaS release team!
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