[Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

Martin Dengler martin at martindengler.com
Wed Oct 14 18:54:54 EDT 2009


On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:14:57PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 03:40, Bernie Innocenti <bernie at codewiz.org> wrote:
> > El Mon, 12-10-2009 a las 22:36 -0400, Bernie Innocenti escribió:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Michael just passed by the Acetarium and, since the dinner was late, we
> >> found the time to test and review his latest prototype^W patch.
> >>
> >> I'm loving how the menus suddenly are now snappy and responsive. Please,
> >> test it yourself and report back. If we like this change, I think we
> >> should go on and also kill the code that this patch makes redundant.
>
> I'm more concerned about developers proposing big user experience
> changes because they feel it's better. Before I look at the patch I
> would like to know if there's agreement from people close to our users
> that this behavior change is desired. How can we get that?

From [1]:

"Also the context menu, that appears when hovering for a moment over
an icon, providing some settings or features, irritated at least five
children more than it was supportive. Only two children used the
context menu of the home screen-icons to identify the activity,
because the name of the activity is displayed on top of the menu."

"[The children] were partially bothered [by the context menu-function]
and one girl even groaned every time the menu appears, because she did
not want it to."

Eben's justification of popup-menus[2] (which I alway re-buy into
everytime I read it) is perhaps not being absorbed by Activity
developers?  Perhaps with a bit of developer elbow-grease we can
eliminate the crutch of the popup-menu from every (Fructose) Activity?

> Thanks,
> 
> Tomeu

Martin

1. http://dimeb.informatik.uni-bremen.de/documents/Sugar-Not_necessarily_unhealthy.pdf

My favourite "use out of context for bashing-the-UI-design" quote is:
"Every-time the Frame appeared, which happened mostly unintentional,
the children were irritated and one girl even [got] a little bit angry
and started to swear."

2. http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2009-October/020209.html
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