[Sugar-devel] [NEW FEATURE] write to the journal whenever you want

Walter Bender walter.bender at gmail.com
Thu Nov 19 17:44:16 EST 2009

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Wade Brainerd <wadetb at gmail.com> wrote:
> Looks like a nice improvement to me.
> But, per thread from a few weeks ago, I think the Keep vs Stop concept
> needs attention and this feature should probably become a part of
> whatever solution we reach for that difficult problem.

I don't want to minimize its importance, but I am not sure that the
Keep vs Stop issue is really related to the
write-about-what-you-are-doing-while-you-are-doing-it issue. The
former has to do with saving your work. The latter about reflecting
upon your work. Maybe it is a reasonable heuristic to save a version
every time you stop to write? In any case, we need the ability to
write at any time. (Right now, if you write in the Journal while an
activity is open, your changes are lost when the activity is closed.
This patch doesn't fix that problem either, but it eliminates the need
to go to the Journal i the first place--a somewhat controversial


> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Eduardo H. Silva <hoboprimate at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I like the idea, and much prefer it.
>> As for the design, what about using as a toolbar icon the
>> journal+pencil icon? It would imply that you are writing something
>> into the journal, in this case the title and description and tags of
>> the current activity.
>> There is a potential problem of adding another persistent icon to the
>> toolbar, which is it shrinks the space for the activity's icons. If
>> this is the case, perhaps this functionality should be merged with the
>> Keep button in some way, but since Keep is/will be used to Keep new
>> versions and also to Keep the activiy in a different format it would
>> need a new design. Perhaps these options (Keep new version, Keep as X)
>> could be added as buttons on the top or bottom of the description
>> window which would be a secondary palette of the Keep button.
>> Just food for thought.
>> Eduardo
>> 2009/11/19 Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>:
>>> Many of us love the Naming Alert, but even more seem to despise it.
>>> With this feature, it is invoked from a toolbar button instead of
>>> automatically invoked on quit. It lets the learning take notes
>>> repeatedly and at any time during an activity session.
>>> See http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Write_to_journal_anytime
>>> This is a quick hack. We may want to revisit the toolbar integration
>>> and certainly need a better icon :)
>>> Comments?
>>> -walter
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