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1. The user takes a screenshot of the Activity <br>
2. He adds annotations on it to tell what element of the interface do <br>
3. Another user can now take a quiz on what does what in the interface
with possibility of collaboration and competitive scoring via Dbus.<br>
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The main difference with what we are trying to achieve is that we put
the emphasis on the dynamic aspect of a tutorial, of actually doing
inside the Activity the actions suggested by the tutorial. We think
that it is difficult to imagine complex workflows from a simple
description of the interface and that it might be a lot more effective
if we could guide the users all along the way in executing it.<br>
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I'll be interested in seeing how your creator evolves and see how
people use it. We lack data on how people learn a new piece of software
so it is hard to know how tutorials should be presented and what
approaches work best. I think diversity in ways to look at the problem
is desirable and should allows everybody to learn from each other.<br>
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regards,<br>
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Erick<br>
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Just so you know, I've created a tutorial creator for gtk using
python. Right now its really simple, just upload picture, point and
click on picture to set bullet points, and then name those bullet
points. The there is the test taker, which scores u on which u got
right/wrong.
Next step was to connect the dbus tubes to collaborate like a in
quiz game show. Thisn might be too specific for what u are looking
for, but its really commented, as I wanted to make a tutorial for
making python apps with collab for gtk and sugar.
Maybe take a look: git.sugarlabs.org/projects/pyclic
Possibly there is some breakage as I was just internationalising it,
which I remember leaving working. But in any case the code is there
and readable. One of the nice things is, the whole quiz is an XML
file, so easy to move via xmpp to web, or other server,or watever...
image 64 bit encoded...
At this point, it could do with adding some ideas, linking into moodle
for example, etc...
if u are interested in collaborating, let me know...
kind regards,
David
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Erick Lavoie <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:erick.lavoie at gmail.com"><erick.lavoie at gmail.com></a> wrote:
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Edward Cherlin wrote:
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 09:11, Erick Lavoie <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:erick.lavoie at gmail.com"><erick.lavoie at gmail.com></a> wrote:
As discussed before, Tutorius is a project done by 9 students from
Université de Sherbrooke (Québec, Canada) aiming to integrate interactive
tutorials inside Sugar to guide Sugar users in learning the platform and its
activities. Our goal for december is to be able to cover most of the
content of the Floss manual.
I have started writing a new manual, tentatively Discovering Discovery
on the XO. It is based on the material in my Wiki page,
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/The_Undiscoverable">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/The_Undiscoverable</a>. The introductory
material and the first few topics exist in draft form. I am currently
sorting obstacles by dependencies. Then I intend to create a sequence
of topics in dependency order exploring each obstacle. The intention
is to cover everything that an average student will need in order to
be able to use all of the Sugar software at grade level.
Then we have to work on the topics appropriate for each school
subject, and propose a few new subjects that are essential for
achieving the Millennium Development Goals, building a functioning
society and economy, and rebuilding the environment.
We are doing this along 3 axis:
Execution: Add the mechanisms needed to Sugar to support execution of
tutorials
What do you need besides existing activities and programming
environments, particularly TurtleArt, Pippy, Scratch, and Etoys?
I am referring to the design we have done to be able to overlay Tutorials on
top of Activities or the Shell, in a uniform way for all GUI systems (Gtk,
PyGame, Qt, Etoys, etc.) supported by Sugar. We want teachers and students
to eventually be able to write interactive guides to Sugar without having to
understand the specifics of the technologies behind every activity. This is
what will make tutorial building easy. This is a lot more challenging than
simply making sure that it is possible to create tutorials for a specific
activity.
So far, we are only supporting Gtk-based Activities but the support for
other systems should be progressively incorporated.
We do not need any extraneous libraries or third-party software other than
what is shipped with Sugar currently but we needed to add some hooks in
Sugar itself (sugar-session, Activity, etc.).
Creation: Provide tools to create tutorials from within Sugar in a GUI
environment
Same question.
Again, this is a custom design and the goal is to be able to use the same
Tutorial Creator for all Activities and Sugar itself. Based on the FLOSS
manuals, we realized that we needed more than one activity for certain
workflows so we want to be able to execute tutorials that spans more than
one Activity and guide through Sugar itself between those activities. The
Creator should enable building tutorials in a way that is as close to the
workflow an experienced user is using as possible. Eventually, it should be
easy to record the events the user has generated to accomplish a certain
workflow through many Activities and then allow edition of that sequence for
incorporating notifications to guide another user in accomplishing the same
workflow. This is more than simply providing a help section inside an
activity.
It should become a lot more concrete once we have shown a demo of the
current Creator in action.
regards,
Erick
Sharing: Provide a platform to share tutorials on the web
Definitely.
We have shown demos in the past of basic capabilities (in chronological
order), here, here and at a presentation given last April.
Next Friday, we will hang around on IRC at 13h EST and give a live demo of
the current state of the project using Yuuguu or something equivalent, with
an execution engine running in a separate process than the activity, an
overhauled tutorial creator (still running inside the activity process) and
maybe a quick overview of the sharing platform based around the addon
sharing platform from Mozilla.
We would like to exchange ideas with people and discuss technical matters
with the following goals:
Receive feedback on the work done so far
Discuss the possible integration of our system with Sugar, the SugarLabs
sharing platform and the official release cycle
Anticipate possible evolutions
Exchange ideas and pointers to similar work and papers to inspire ourselves
and avoid duplicating research efforts
Our team will disband around mid-december, but I'll keep maintaining the
project and there might be possibilities for another team of 6-8 people from
Université de Sherbrooke to push the project further in January for another
year. It would be really exciting to see a collaboration with SugarLabs
continue in the future!
For those interested in a more technical view of the inner working of the
system, see Tutorius Architecture, especially the Component section.
See you on IRC on Friday at 13h EST!
Erick Lavoie
for Tutorius
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