[Sugar-devel] Kartik - internship outside GSoC

[kartik rustagi]

Hello everyone,
Sorry for replying after this long a duration. Exams followed by physical
damage to my machine consumed a lot of time.
I will like to start my internship under Sugarlabs ASAP. Can any one please
provide me a link to all the ideas that were discussed at the recent Sugar
meetup (in Paris I guess) and the results of those discussions if possible.
I will have a look at those ideas and will like to finalize the one I will
be working on as soon as possible (in a day or two maximum). The idea
regarding sharing of activities is also in the loop.

Thank You



On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:20 AM, David Farning <dfarning at sugarlabs.org>wrote:

> Kartik,
> That all looks pretty straightforward.  When you get the project
> worked out Jameson can sign as training officer.  It looks like the
> third page should be sent by Jameson directly to your school.
>
> thanks
> david
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:25 AM, kartik rustagi <kashes911 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Please find the scanned structure of the documents which are required as
> a
> > proof of Internship at my school. It will be best if the documents are
> > mailed directly to me since that will be the most reliable.
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:50 AM, kartik rustagi <kashes911 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> My own, completely personal opinion on dissimilar activity
> collaboration
> >>> is that it is a solution searching for a problem. I understand that
> there
> >>> are real use cases, but I haven't seen one that's nearly as compelling
> as
> >>> the viral-activity idea (idea 2 of the ones I sent). This is just me
> >>> commenting, I hope that others with opposing viewpoints will also
> comment.
> >>
> >> If that is indeed the case then I will go with viral-activity idea. Any
> >> idea who put up the dissimilar activity collaboration idea on the idea
> list.
> >> Maybe he/she might have a different outlook towards it. Suggestions on
> this
> >> are requested :)
> >>
> >>>
> >>> As to Groupthink, I think that it would be ill-advised to try to force
> >>> you and Bemasc to work together without a very clear delineation of
> >>> responsibility which minimizes dependencies. I also think it would be
> very
> >>> hard to draw such a line, though you're welcome to prove me wrong on
> this
> >>> latter point.
> >>
> >> I completely agree with you. The reason why I mentioned Groupthink was
> >> because I seriously appreciated it and wanted to do something like this
> for
> >> Sugar (according to my capabilities).
> >> Few more suggestions on the project idea and then I will start making
> the
> >> proposal.
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Jameson Quinn <
> jameson.quinn at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> > I hope we can do this for you, and would be really happy if it comes
> >>>> > through. However, as much as it pains me, I think you will have to
> go
> >>>> > through some of the application process over again. We don't need to
> >>>> > interview you again, once is plenty and you did well. But we do need
> a
> >>>> > specific proposal, with clear deliverables - which could easily take
> a
> >>>> > week
> >>>> > or more for you to create - and then at least a few days for us to
> >>>> > evaluate
> >>>> > the merits of such a proposal and our ability to support it.
> >>>> > Otherwise, how
> >>>> > can we meaningfully evaluate whether you've "completed" your
> >>>> > internship?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I suspect that we'd be ready to accommodate whatever reasonable
> >>>> > calendar you
> >>>> > set up for those steps.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Jameson
> >>>> >
> >>>> > 2009/4/26 kartik rustagi <kashes911 at gmail.com>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Hi David,
> >>>> >> I talked to few of my seniors and the Training and Placement Cell
> at
> >>>> >> my school and they told me that the only official letter I will be
> >>>> >> needing are:
> >>>> >> 1) 'Joining Letter' which will state the date I will be starting my
> >>>> >> internship and my supervisor (mentor) at the organization. This
> >>>> >> letter
> >>>> >> should preferably on the letter head of the organization or should
> >>>> >> have some other kind of authentication.
> >>>> >> 2)  And at the end of training I will need a completion
> certificate.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> I will scan and mail you the format of these documents, that will
> be
> >>>> >> more convenient. The official period of the internship will start
> >>>> >> from
> >>>> >> the last week of May after the university exams (going on right
> now).
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Delhi College of Engineering : www.dce.ac.in, www.dce.edu
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Regards
> >>>> >> Kartik Rustagi
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:28 AM, David Farning
> >>>> >> <dfarning at sugarlabs.org>
> >>>> >> wrote:
> >>>> >> > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Jameson Quinn
> >>>> >> > <jameson.quinn at gmail.com>
> >>>> >> > wrote:
> >>>> >> >> Kartik,
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> I think we can definitely find a useful way for you to
> contribute
> >>>> >> >> and
> >>>> >> >> fulfill your internship requirements. You should write more
> about
> >>>> >> >> what
> >>>> >> >> kind
> >>>> >> >> of project would interest you; the suggestions below focus more
> on
> >>>> >> >> communications, because that's what I know as your expertise,
> but
> >>>> >> >> if
> >>>> >> >> you are
> >>>> >> >> interested in UI, security, graphics, or something else, there
> are
> >>>> >> >> probably
> >>>> >> >> other ideas for you.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> I'm not really the person to talk to about communications. I was
> >>>> >> >> talking
> >>>> >> >> with bemasc (benjamin schwartz, copied on this email) and we had
> >>>> >> >> two
> >>>> >> >> ideas:
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Some way of completing your original project idea without
> >>>> >> >> involving
> >>>> >> >> Collabora/Telepathy too much. For instance, Bemasc mentioned
> >>>> >> >> Webdav,
> >>>> >> >> but
> >>>> >> >> said "The problem is that it has no (standardized or otherwise)
> >>>> >> >> connection
> >>>> >> >> to XMPP, so Collabora isn't much interested in shoving it into
> >>>> >> >> Salut in
> >>>> >> >> some
> >>>> >> >> ad-hoc way.... So it would have to live outside of Salut, but
> >>>> >> >> still ask
> >>>> >> >> Salut for the IP address associated with a given contact,
> etc....
> >>>> >> >> Maybe
> >>>> >> >> it
> >>>> >> >> could get its own Telepathy connection manager, but now this is
> >>>> >> >> really
> >>>> >> >> getting out of control." In other words, you'd have to have some
> >>>> >> >> serious
> >>>> >> >> conversations with him to redesign how this would work.
> >>>> >> >> One part of the original sugar design that has never been
> realized
> >>>> >> >> is
> >>>> >> >> the
> >>>> >> >> ability to share in activities without previously installing
> them
> >>>> >> >> on
> >>>> >> >> your
> >>>> >> >> machine. That would mean that whenever you joined a shared
> >>>> >> >> activity,
> >>>> >> >> your
> >>>> >> >> copy of sugar would automatically download, install, and run a
> >>>> >> >> copy of
> >>>> >> >> the
> >>>> >> >> host's version of the activity. It would require having a way to
> >>>> >> >> hash
> >>>> >> >> activities; the ability to have more than one version of the
> same
> >>>> >> >> activity
> >>>> >> >> simultaneously installed and running; some policy for garbage
> >>>> >> >> collecting old
> >>>> >> >> installed activity versions; and teaching Sugar to appropriately
> >>>> >> >> use
> >>>> >> >> the
> >>>> >> >> existing file transfer mechanisms in telepathy. I suspect that
> >>>> >> >> this
> >>>> >> >> project
> >>>> >> >> would be more under your own control than your original
> proposal,
> >>>> >> >> and I
> >>>> >> >> think that the time is ripe for Sugar to grow this
> functionality.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> As to the paperwork for your internship requirements at your
> >>>> >> >> school,
> >>>> >> >> Walter
> >>>> >> >> Bender (also copied on this mail) has said he could probably
> help
> >>>> >> >> you
> >>>> >> >> with
> >>>> >> >> that. Talk to him.
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > Kartik,
> >>>> >> > Do you have a contact at your school for handling the internship
> >>>> >> > requirements?  If so, please have him contact us so we can insure
> >>>> >> > that
> >>>> >> > the paper work is set up for you.
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > thanks
> >>>> >> > david
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> >> Hope this helps, and good luck!
> >>>> >> >> Jameson
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:46 AM, kartik rustagi
> >>>> >> >> <kashes911 at gmail.com>
> >>>> >> >> wrote:
> >>>> >> >>>
> >>>> >> >>> Hi Jameson,
> >>>> >> >>>
> >>>> >> >>> Sorry for the late reply, I was out of station. First of all
> >>>> >> >>> thanks a
> >>>> >> >>> lot for showing this gesture towards me, it really meant a lot.
> >>>> >> >>> It
> >>>> >> >>> would have been had I got through Gsoc but none the less my
> >>>> >> >>>  passion
> >>>> >> >>> towards contributing to Sugar and open source in general still
> >>>> >> >>> remains. Yes resume building was one of the reason for me to
> >>>> >> >>> apply for
> >>>> >> >>> Gsoc, but along with that it would have served as an internship
> >>>> >> >>> that
> >>>> >> >>> we must do in the coming months of June and July. I will have
> to
> >>>> >> >>> talk
> >>>> >> >>> to college authority whether working for Sugar will do the job
> or
> >>>> >> >>> not.
> >>>> >> >>> In the mean time can you please let me know the projects that
> >>>> >> >>> have
> >>>> >> >>> recently started or are yet to start and where I can fit in.
> >>>> >> >>>
> >>>> >> >>> --
> >>>> >> >>> Regards
> >>>> >> >>> Kartik Rustagi
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> _______________________________________________
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> >>>> >> >> Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> >>>> >> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> --
> >>>> >> Regards
> >>>> >> Kartik Rustagi
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Regards
> >>>> Kartik Rustagi
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards
> >> Kartik Rustagi
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> > Kartik Rustagi
> >
>



-- 
Regards
Kartik Rustagi
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