[Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] personal marketing (bottum up approach)

[David Farning]

Infrastructure meeting are (usually) on Fridays.

david

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe we can find a time in the next few days to all meet on IRC to
> discuss this? CC'ng Bernie as he is most familiar with the SL
> infrastructure.
>
> -walter
>
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 7:41 AM, David Van Assche <dvanassche at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I think that there is a kind of formal technical/distribution position
>> forming here. Ie... someone that would be responsible for supporting
>> distribution methods of sugar (this should not be confused with QA,
>> bugsquad or anything else) It just needs to be a person that can say
>> all the available methods of distribution, and perhaps working on
>> communication between distros and Sugar team... what do u guys think?
>> Marten or I are both capable of doing this job just fine, but it kind
>> of overlaps with the infrastructure team... we'd need to be sure like
>> Marten says we have access to a server to set up rsync, torrent
>> distribution and even our own build Service (openSUSE build service is
>> totally gpl ;-)   ) What should this position be called, I have no
>> idea, I came up with lateral distro architect, but I have no idea if
>> that is specific enough or even too generic.
>>
>> What do u think? perhaps forming a team that me and marten can be
>> integrated with seams obvious for the time being. Both of us also want
>> to work towards centralised distribution methods that are push and not
>> just pull, whatever they might be. I'm forwarding this to sugar-devel
>> as well as this has to do with them too, and an olpc rep so that we
>> can make sure they know what we are doing with sugar distribution.
>>
>> kind Regards,
>> David (Nubae) Van Assche
>>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Marten Vijn <info at martenvijn.nl> wrote:
>>> Thanks David,
>>>
>>> I will go for bandwith then asking for rsync as requirement.
>>> A torrend would optional.
>>>
>>> Some things I would like to assure mirrors have to:
>>> - have directory layout
>>> - same names
>>>
>>> Features I would also like to have
>>> - having a "Last_version" symlink to the last version.
>>>  (keep links valid over time)
>>> - md5sums
>>> - list of mirrors on the website
>>> - or better mirror autoselection
>>>
>>>
>>> Besides from getting bandwidth is there a way I can help to achieve
>>> this? (I guess ssh access would be needed)
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Marten
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 12:10 +0200, David Van Assche wrote:
>>>> One thing solution we use at openSUSE to get increcremental images,
>>>> ie... you have an older version of SOAS or sugar or whatever image,
>>>> but you want a newer one, well solution is to use rsync, but this
>>>> would need to be enabled by the host (ie wherever all this is being
>>>> hosted downloaded from [bernie, caroline?]):
>>>>
>>>> First check the latest image at:
>>>>
>>>> (This definetly works with openSUSE where sugar is completely
>>>> integrated, even with an icon on the desktop that takes you straight
>>>> into sugar from the desktop. The address for either SugarSuse or
>>>> openSUSE-edu is here:
>>>> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Education/images/iso/ )
>>>>
>>>> The Soas images (snapshots, ie latests sugar) are here as far as I can
>>>> tell: http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/2/
>>>>
>>>> Copy old image with exactly same name as new image available:
>>>>
>>>> cp oldimage.iso exact-name-new-image-is.iso
>>>>
>>>> Run rsync again to patch it:
>>>>
>>>> rsync -avP rsync://mirror.leaseweb.com/opensuse/repositories/Education/images/iso/exact-name-new-image-is.iso
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>> Dot at the end with space before it is part of the command.
>>>>
>>>> This will download only the bytes that have changed, which in some
>>>> cases is just few MBs, saving few GBs of download.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously p2p is another good solution to get initial images going if
>>>> a couple of people choose to upload to linuxtracker.org or
>>>> something...
>>>>
>>>> kind Regards,
>>>> David (Nubae) Van Assche
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Marten Vijn <info at martenvijn.nl> wrote:
>>>> > Dear All,
>>>> >
>>>> > In the last 24 hours I talked to 12 persons about Sugar.
>>>> >
>>>> > - 6 persons have downloaded sugar and said to give feedback on Sugar
>>>> >
>>>> > - I have send a request for testing to i-network at dgroups.org.
>>>> > This is one the main mailinglistings in Africa.
>>>> >
>>>> > My findings so far:
>>>> > 1. Asking people to help works. I ask can you help me. Can you download
>>>> > an iso, burn it to cd, boot it, and give you opinion an email?
>>>> > This is very effective in shifting from "talking about" to "doing".
>>>> >
>>>> > 2. The download seems to be slow.
>>>> >
>>>> > Possible sollution, shall I ask for bandwith to mirror the iso image?
>>>> > Can someone make familiar with an optimal solution
>>>> > (syncing/redirecting).
>>>> >
>>>> > kind regards,
>>>> > Marten
>>>> >
>>>> >
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>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > http://martenvijn.nl                 Marten Vijn
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>>>> > http://har2009.org                   13th-16th August
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>>> http://martenvijn.nl                 Marten Vijn
>>> http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/soas  Sugar on a Stick
>>> http://bsd.wifisoft.org/nek/         The Network Event Kit
>>> http://har2009.org                   13th-16th August
>>> http://opencommunitycamp.org         26th Jul - 2nd August
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