[Sugar-devel] [IAEP] personal marketing (bottum up approach)

[David Van Assche]

I think that there is a kind of formal technical/distribution position
forming here. Ie... someone that would be responsible for supporting
distribution methods of sugar (this should not be confused with QA,
bugsquad or anything else) It just needs to be a person that can say
all the available methods of distribution, and perhaps working on
communication between distros and Sugar team... what do u guys think?
Marten or I are both capable of doing this job just fine, but it kind
of overlaps with the infrastructure team... we'd need to be sure like
Marten says we have access to a server to set up rsync, torrent
distribution and even our own build Service (openSUSE build service is
totally gpl ;-)   ) What should this position be called, I have no
idea, I came up with lateral distro architect, but I have no idea if
that is specific enough or even too generic.

What do u think? perhaps forming a team that me and marten can be
integrated with seams obvious for the time being. Both of us also want
to work towards centralised distribution methods that are push and not
just pull, whatever they might be. I'm forwarding this to sugar-devel
as well as this has to do with them too, and an olpc rep so that we
can make sure they know what we are doing with sugar distribution.

kind Regards,
David (Nubae) Van Assche

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Marten Vijn <info at martenvijn.nl> wrote:
> Thanks David,
>
> I will go for bandwith then asking for rsync as requirement.
> A torrend would optional.
>
> Some things I would like to assure mirrors have to:
> - have directory layout
> - same names
>
> Features I would also like to have
> - having a "Last_version" symlink to the last version.
>  (keep links valid over time)
> - md5sums
> - list of mirrors on the website
> - or better mirror autoselection
>
>
> Besides from getting bandwidth is there a way I can help to achieve
> this? (I guess ssh access would be needed)
>
> Kind regards,
> Marten
>
>
> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 12:10 +0200, David Van Assche wrote:
>> One thing solution we use at openSUSE to get increcremental images,
>> ie... you have an older version of SOAS or sugar or whatever image,
>> but you want a newer one, well solution is to use rsync, but this
>> would need to be enabled by the host (ie wherever all this is being
>> hosted downloaded from [bernie, caroline?]):
>>
>> First check the latest image at:
>>
>> (This definetly works with openSUSE where sugar is completely
>> integrated, even with an icon on the desktop that takes you straight
>> into sugar from the desktop. The address for either SugarSuse or
>> openSUSE-edu is here:
>> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Education/images/iso/ )
>>
>> The Soas images (snapshots, ie latests sugar) are here as far as I can
>> tell: http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/2/
>>
>> Copy old image with exactly same name as new image available:
>>
>> cp oldimage.iso exact-name-new-image-is.iso
>>
>> Run rsync again to patch it:
>>
>> rsync -avP rsync://mirror.leaseweb.com/opensuse/repositories/Education/images/iso/exact-name-new-image-is.iso
>> .
>>
>> Dot at the end with space before it is part of the command.
>>
>> This will download only the bytes that have changed, which in some
>> cases is just few MBs, saving few GBs of download.
>>
>> Obviously p2p is another good solution to get initial images going if
>> a couple of people choose to upload to linuxtracker.org or
>> something...
>>
>> kind Regards,
>> David (Nubae) Van Assche
>>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Marten Vijn <info at martenvijn.nl> wrote:
>> > Dear All,
>> >
>> > In the last 24 hours I talked to 12 persons about Sugar.
>> >
>> > - 6 persons have downloaded sugar and said to give feedback on Sugar
>> >
>> > - I have send a request for testing to i-network at dgroups.org.
>> > This is one the main mailinglistings in Africa.
>> >
>> > My findings so far:
>> > 1. Asking people to help works. I ask can you help me. Can you download
>> > an iso, burn it to cd, boot it, and give you opinion an email?
>> > This is very effective in shifting from "talking about" to "doing".
>> >
>> > 2. The download seems to be slow.
>> >
>> > Possible sollution, shall I ask for bandwith to mirror the iso image?
>> > Can someone make familiar with an optimal solution
>> > (syncing/redirecting).
>> >
>> > kind regards,
>> > Marten
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>> > --
>> > http://martenvijn.nl                 Marten Vijn
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>> > http://har2009.org                   13th-16th August
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>> >
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> http://martenvijn.nl                 Marten Vijn
> http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/soas  Sugar on a Stick
> http://bsd.wifisoft.org/nek/         The Network Event Kit
> http://har2009.org                   13th-16th August
> http://opencommunitycamp.org         26th Jul - 2nd August
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