[Sugar-devel] Dictionary everywhere ?

[Sayamindu Dasgupta]

On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd prefer to see all meanings for a word within the set of
> dictionaries chosen.  If you are learning two langs, you should see
> relevant words in both languages when you select a string.
>
> SJ


Well - we can let the user choose multiple dictionaries if we want.
Does that make sense ?

Thanks,
Sayamindu




>
> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 13:27, Sayamindu Dasgupta <sayamindu at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 02:10, Sayamindu Dasgupta <sayamindu at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> I was wondering about having a global "dictionary" key in sugar, just
>>>>> like the view source key. When you select a word (or words), and press
>>>>> that key, a window should pop up, showing the meaning of that word (or
>>>>> those words). There can be a control panel entry to choose what
>>>>> dictionary to use (eg: someone might want to have a English-Spanish
>>>>> dictionary instead of a English-English one, etc).
>>>>> I did a bit of hacking last weekend to come up with a rough mockup for
>>>>> the feature.
>>>>> There's a screencast at
>>>>> http://people.sugarlabs.org/sayamindu/global_dictionary.ogv
>>>>> (it works with all activities, and not just with Browse - and the
>>>>> window pops up when I press the key)
>>>>> Does it make sense for Sugar ? If it does, I think I can beat it into
>>>>> shape over the next few weekends.
>>>>
>>>> Looks really great, congrats!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you very much :)
>>>
>>>> I'm adding it to the topics of the next design meeting, which may be
>>>> next weekend.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds good. I am looking forward to some ideas about the UI.
>>>
>>>> Btw, which external dependencies brings? How would it work in
>>>> multilingual environments?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Right now I am using python-dictdlib[1] to get the definitions from a
>>> dictd formatted database[2]. It may probably make sense to turn the
>>> definition and dictionary management part into a desktop independent
>>> dbus based library, and have a sugar control panel extension and a
>>> globalkey/deviceicon extension to leverage that.
>>> Alternatively, we can also consider using a web-based approach, where
>>> we query dict.org (this means that we won't have to ship the large
>>> dictionary dumps) - but I don't want to rely on a internet connection
>>> being present for this feature to be usable.
>>>
>>> As for multilingual environments, I propose to have a control panel
>>> extension which would let the user choose which dictionary to use. I
>>> think would be similar to the speech module:
>>> http://interdimensionmedia.com/scratch/settings-10.jpg
>>
>> Wouldn't be a bit uncomfortable for bilingual people or those learning
>> a new language? Or are you suggesting that in the control panel you
>> would set the languages you will use and then in the alert you would
>> choose the current one?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tomeu
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sayamindu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/python-dictdlib
>>> [2] http://www.dict.org/w/databases/start
>>> --
>>> Sayamindu Dasgupta
>>> [http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings]
>>>
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