[Sugar-devel] Keyboard shortcuts

[Gary C Martin]

On 1 May 2009, at 18:21, Jameson Quinn wrote:

> 2009/5/1 Martin Dengler <martin at martindengler.com>
> On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 10:48:08AM -0600, Jameson Quinn wrote:
> > OK, the grand unified proposal for these, after discussion on IRC  
> and the
> > above is:
> > f,j,r,s,v,p,o -> frame, journal, rotate, say, view source,  
> screenshot
> > ("print"), overlay (unimplemented)
>
> > <alt><shift>[fjrsvp] = deprecated, but kept for emulator users on
> > MacOS.
>
> I'd say just "emulator users".
>
> > <alt>[fjrsvp] = preferred method for above, discoverable through  
> holding alt
> > and reading the "cheat sheet".
> > F9-F12 = frame, journal, overlay, view source
> > This order is changed from the XO, because of netbook keyboards  
> missing
> > dedicated F11/F12 keys. I'm agnostic about view source needing a  
> dedicated
> > key.
>
> I don't see the need for <alt>[fjrsvp]: we have frame, journal, and
> view source available in one click via F9-F11 (IIUC your
> some-netbooks-share-F11-and-F12 comment), and we have the existing,
> ubiquitous fallbacks of <alt><shift>[...].  Why deprecate the existing
> combinations in favor of combinations that are more likely to clash
> with existing applications?
>
> Because the <alt> keys are more consistent and discoverable. That's  
> also why I don't just say "emulator users" above; the new keys would  
> be available to non-mac emulator users. Finally, note that if the  
> <alt> keys never get to sugar in macOS emulation, then activities  
> already should be avoiding them.

Sorry, seemed to have missed a conversation here, what's with idea  
that <alt> keys are not getting through to Sugar for emulators/Macs? I  
run sugar-jhbuild here in F10 under VirtualBox on a Mac, and Soas  
images as well. No problem with <alt> keys that I'm aware of.

--Gary

>  > Insert = frame (redundant)
>
> What about CapsLock for Macs (non-emulation)?
>
> Honestly, if we want a consistent and more-useful remapping of  
> CapsLock, we should consider making it control_R. But I'm ready to  
> let others decide this, it's not a big deal for me.
>
>
>
> Martin
>
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