[Sugar-devel] ideal flash activity to be remade as karma activity

Lucian Branescu lucian.branescu at gmail.com
Sun Mar 29 18:58:22 EDT 2009

I got inspired while testing webkit vs gecko and I needed a backup
proposal anyway. Here it is:
Please have a look when you have time.

2009/3/28 Lucian Branescu <lucian.branescu at gmail.com>:
> I did some more testing, this time in SoaS inside VirtualBox. It's as
> close as I can get to an XO.
> I used this code for hulahop
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sugar_Code_Snippets#WebView
> Similar code for pywebkitgtk.
> Results here http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/317039/webkit%20vs%20gecko%20soas.txt
> They seem to be consistent with my results on OS X.
> Also, it occured to me that making a pywebkitgtk backend for hulahop
> would be easier than I had thought.
> 2009/3/28 Lucian Branescu <lucian.branescu at gmail.com>:
>> I'm such an idiot, I forgot to link the results.
>> Here http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/317039/webkit%20vs%20gecko.txt
>> 2009/3/28 Lucian Branescu <lucian.branescu at gmail.com>:
>>> I've been doing some benchmarks between firefox and safari nightlies
>>> on OS X Leopard x86. Firefox had Tracemonkey and Safari had
>>> SquirrelFish Extreme.
>>> Every test was run three times and the best time was recorded. Memory
>>> usage is Real Size as reported by the OS X (Activity Monitor and top).
>>> I asked around on #firefox and #webkit, people in general agreed that
>>> the v8 bench is purely synthetic, since it mainly tests recursion and
>>> memory management. SunSpider was said to be the most indicative of
>>> real-world usage and Dromaeo the most comprehensive.
>>> The results may vary greatly on linux, and in particular the XO.
>>> bernie (or bemasc, sorry I keep getting your nicks mixed up) was
>>> thinking of testing on the XO, I don't know how far he got. (if you do
>>> test, also try the chrome experiments)
>>> In the end, I believe it may be beneficial for Sugar to switch to
>>> webkit, but it would be best to not introduce a new dependency only
>>> for the web-activity thing. The difference isn't that great and things
>>> like Bespin manage to work fine on firefox.
>>> A webkit backend for hulahop would probably be an interesting project,
>>> but I may be wrong since I don't know that much about hulahop's API.
>>> 2009/3/27 Jameson Quinn <jameson.quinn at gmail.com>:
>>>>> 3 months is a very short period to bring not only 2 but 4 people to work
>>>>> together across multiple time zones.
>>>> I brought this up on #gsoc yesterday, and LH (the top authority) was
>>>> somewhat skeptical about any coordination. I said we would leave it up to
>>>> the students involved, and she said that sounded good, but Google would have
>>>> to approve any final plan, and they wanted to avoid any dependencies,
>>>> whether implicit or explicit, on the future work of anyone besides the
>>>> mentor and the student.
>>>> Jameson

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