[Sugar-devel] ideal flash activity to be remade as karma activity
Bryan Berry
bryan at olenepal.org
Fri Mar 27 04:08:22 EDT 2009
I agree w/ Wade that this could be difficult to coordinate. I would
rather see two complementary projects.
3 months is a very short period to bring not only 2 but 4 people to work
together across multiple time zones.
I would rather try titanium than xulrunner simply because I have the
vague perception that webkit is significantly faster than gecko. I don't
have any empirical evidence regarding this.
I would rather that subzero focus on the framework, i.e.:
* animating w/ javascript and html5, in a way that is very
straightforward and reproducible
* integrating audio into it
* making a structure for internationalization that is nicely compatible
w/ pootle
* nice integration w/ the journal.
* Nice way to integrate teacher's note and lesson plan, ideally w/ plain
html rather than a pdf or other nasty proprietary format
teacher's note - what kids should get out of this lesson, what problems
they might encounter and how to help them out and lesson plan - how to
manage 35+ to accomplish something in 50 minutes.
So the above list might be more than enough for one GSoC project w/out
adding in the collaboration
So what do u think wadeb and subzero?
On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 13:50 -0400, Wade Brainerd wrote:
> I've suggested something similar in past years, but Google prefers to
> avoid students projects working together at all. This includes
> working together on projects, or having dependencies on the results of
> other projects.
>
>
> There is a significant failure rate for GSoC projects and it's not
> fair for one student's success to be dependent on the work of another.
>
>
> If the projects can be made to work 100% independently and yet still
> complement each other, then we are good.
>
>
> Best,
> Wade
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Lucian Branescu
> <lucian.branescu at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello, I have this proposal
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Webified_Toolkit
>
> I've had a chat with mchua and homunq on #sugar, and here's an
> interesting idea
> "homunq: if you'd need some limited common foundation, but
> most of
> your work would then be separate and compatible, you could
> both
> schedule the foundation work in the first couple weeks, then
> say "we
> will then choose whose version of the foundation to
> standardize on"
>
> We would both need Gears and some sort of javascript-dbus
> bridge.
> Gears should be just a plugin and javascript-dbus could be
> done
> through this
> http://sandbox.movial.com/wiki/index.php/Browser_DBus_Bridge.
>
> Then subzero could focus on the 'framework to build sugar
> activities
> with web technologies' part and I could focus on the 'getting
> web apps
> like gmail running nicely on sugar'.
>
> There's also the choice between webkit/titanium and
> gecko/xulrunner/hulahop. I think it would be better to use
> xulrunner,
> since it's already a Sugar dependency. It shouldn't be
> significantly
> slower, but we should do some testing anyway.
>
> What do you all think?
>
> 2009/3/26 Wade Brainerd <wadetb at gmail.com>:
> > Just to be clear, this is a perfectly normal part of the
> GSoC application
> > process. Last year with OLPC I had to choose between like 6
> different
> > Typing Turtle applications, several of which were quite
> good. And in the
> > end, none of them was funded by Google.
> > So, we'll analyze your designs, schedules, resumes, related
> projects,
> > potential for future contribution to the project, etc. and
> choose the best
> > one to attempt to have funded.
> > That said, getting a head start on the project and getting
> involved in the
> > community are great ways to ensure success. Check
> > out http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Print_Support for an
> example of an
> > applicant who has written test programs, had his ideas
> evaluated several
> > times on the mailing list, laid out a fairly clear technical
> design, etc.
> > Keep in mind that we have no idea how many students we'll
> get from Google.
> > So you are not only competing against those who submit a
> proposal for the
> > same idea, you are competing against all the other project
> ideas as well.
> > Best,
> > Wade
> >
> > 2009/3/26 Jameson Quinn <jameson.quinn at gmail.com>
> >>
> >> Subzero, you have competition.
> >>
> >> Lucian, you should check out the mailing list threads for
> talk between
> >> Bryan and Felipe; they are talking about much the same
> ideas you are.
> >>
> >> Bryan, you should include Lucian in your forwards.
> >>
> >> This is not intended to endorse either Lucian or Subzero.
> This is one of
> >> our highest-priority projects for GSoC, and it is even
> conceivable that we
> >> could even accept both of your proposals, to be attempted
> independently.
> >> Both of you, feel free to take ideas from each other's
> proposals, but
> >> remember, we're assuming that you are doing that, and we'd
> like to see you
> >> give fair attribution. You're also both welcome to submit a
> backup proposal
> >> on another idea, either from the ideas list or of your own
> invention; it
> >> seems clear that you are both good applicants, and having a
> backup proposal
> >> will help us do you both justice in case you both make the
> cut. We will not
> >> let the presence or absence of backup proposals bias us in
> which one of you
> >> we choose to do the Karma idea.
> >>
> >> Good luck, may the best proposal win!
> >>
> >> Jameson
> >>
> >> 2009/3/24 Bryan Berry <bryan at olenepal.org>
> >>>
> >>> http://hg.olenepal.org/6_Maths_CoOrdinates_22_swf/
> >>>
> >>> Subzero, I think this might be a great flash activity to
> redo for Karma.
> >>> Let me know if you have trouble running it on your regular
> machine. It
> >>> is in Nepali but I think you will be able to figure it
> out. I really
> >>> like how it demonstrates the concepts of coordinates and
> lets kids play
> >>> w/ those concepts.
> >>>
> >>> You can also download our latest stable monster E-Paath
> bundle from here
> >>> (224 MB)
> >>>
> >>> http://dev.olenepal.org/E-Paath-2/STABLE/
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Bryan W. Berry
> >>> Technology Director
> >>> OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org
> >>>
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