[Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

[Sean DALY]

I have been doing FAT16 exclusively until today, but (if i'm not
confused) the latest SoaS-2 which image failed to boot my XOs when
formatted FAT16 succeeded when formatted FAT32.

By the way when using the fedora liveusb-creator v3.6.3 (previous revs
fail) on WinXP i found that formatting the stick immediately prior to
"burning" it seemed to work better...


On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Caroline Meeks
<solutiongrove at gmail.com> wrote:
> If there any belief that either FAT or FAT32 formatting is better then the
> other? Is that something I should be trying when I have problems?
>
> Thanks,
> Caroline
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Great. So do you think the problem was the SoaS image or FAT vs FAT32?
>>  I do recall that OFW used to be finicky about USB keys that no longer
>> had their factory formatting.
>>
>> -walter
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Success booting an XO-1 with March 23rd SoaS-1!
>> >
>> > I allotted 130 Mb persistent storage on 2 Gb stick formatted FAT (not
>> > FAT32) on WinXP then .iso loaded with fedora LiveUSB Creator v3.6.3
>> > utility. (Note: utility insulted me for trying to overwrite the
>> > bootable stick which wouldn't boot so reformat necessary)
>> >
>> > XO-1 Firmware rev: Q2E35
>> >
>> > USB key on boot no keypress=hangs at Xo symbol, no loading dot sequence
>> > USB key on boot Check button pressed=shows Esc countdown
>> >
>> > press Esc in time then at ok Forth prompt, "boot" finds the stick &
>> > starts Sugar 0.84.1
>> >
>> > verified on both XO-1s I have available...
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> OK, no boot from today's SoaS-2 in the slot
>> >>
>> >> However, when rebooting, "Esc" countdown did not appear unless Check
>> >> key pressed
>> >>
>> >> at OK forth prompt I typed:
>> >> ok boot u:\boot\olpc.fth
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> the script started then failed with this text:
>> >>
>> >> *************
>> >> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on
>> >> /dev/mapper/live-rw,
>> >> missing codepage or helper program, or other error
>> >> In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
>> >> dmesg | tail or so
>> >>
>> >> Bug in initramfs /init detected. Dropping to a shell. Good luck!
>> >>
>> >> bash: no job control in this shell
>> >> bash-4.0#
>> >> *************
>> >>
>> >> Will try with last SoaS-1 image on my other XO thanks
>> >>
>> >> Sean
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> hmmm... yes, I downloaded and installed v3.2 on March 4th... four days
>> >>> before the new version came out!
>> >>>
>> >>> the utility itself keeps as a big fat secret what version it is...
>> >>>
>> >>> I'll be happy if that fixes the problem... but upset if the 8 or 10
>> >>> hours I have put in trying to boot useless sticks was because of
>> >>> that... our wiki page really needs precise information... which by the
>> >>> way I am willing to write, if I manage to boot my XO with a SoaS image
>> >>> been trying for days on end :-(
>> >>>
>> >>> don't get me wrong I appreciate the utility's existence since I only
>> >>> have Macs in the house and I don't know how to "burn" a USB .iso from
>> >>> my two GNU/Linux netbooks or old PC with a liveCD
>> >>>
>> >>> OK, will try again
>> >>>
>> >>> many thanks
>> >>>
>> >>> Sean
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Wade Brainerd <wadetb at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>> I believe only the most recent LiveUSB Creator programs will put an
>> >>>> 'olpc.fth' on there for you.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Maybe the sticks were created with an older version?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> OK thanks Wade
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> If you can tell me just which image you have, I can try with that
>> >>>>> one.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Same behavior with the SD card in or out, and on the other XO with
>> >>>>> no
>> >>>>> SD card at all.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Neither the SoaS-1 (March 5th), nor the SoaS-2 (March 21st) have a
>> >>>>> 'boot' directory, nor a '.fth' Forth script at all. If I stick one
>> >>>>> on,
>> >>>>> will it boot?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I suspected this was the problem as I explored the sticks from the
>> >>>>> ok
>> >>>>> prompt.... this is why we need some kind of integrity checker for a
>> >>>>> "burned" stick, to check if anything is missing, or if the user has
>> >>>>> monkeyed with files (Scout's honor I did not :-), or (say) the
>> >>>>> timestamp of an x.org config file, etc.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> thanks
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Sean
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Wade Brainerd <wadetb at gmail.com>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> Hey Sean,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> FWIW I have successfully booted my XO-1 from SoaS-1 using an older
>> >>>>>> image, I
>> >>>>>> haven't tried the latest.  I used LiveUSB Creator for Windows with
>> >>>>>> a PATRIOT
>> >>>>>> 2GB stick.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> What you might be seeing is that you have a SD card with a bootable
>> >>>>>> partition on your XO.  I think that might take priority over
>> >>>>>> booting from
>> >>>>>> USB.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> You can boot manually from OFW.. something like
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> ok boot u:\boot\olpc.fth
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> should locate 'boot\olpc.fth' on the USB key and start it manually.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> -Wade
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I'm sorry, but I'm a bit confused here, is it possible or not at
>> >>>>>>> this
>> >>>>>>> time to boot an XO-1 from a SoaS image (as we claim on the wiki:
>> >>>>>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation/OLPC)?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> if so, how? since the instructions for Option 1 on the wiki page
>> >>>>>>> are
>> >>>>>>> not working for me.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I see there is a new SoaS-2 image in there, again, I don't think
>> >>>>>>> we
>> >>>>>>> should be recommending to G1G1 owners they use that one yet?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> As I say, I have doubts about the SoaS-1 and SoaS-2 sticks I am
>> >>>>>>> using,
>> >>>>>>> it appears the XO can't find anything to boot with on these sticks
>> >>>>>>> while my Acer Aspire One boots up with both (?)
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I suppose there's no way to boot manually from a stick from OFW?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> thanks
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Sean
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Dave Bauer <dave.bauer at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > I am having a more fundamental issue.
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > 1) First I used liveusb-creator on windows with Soas1 and
>> >>>>>>> > created the
>> >>>>>>> > crc
>> >>>>>>> > and img files to install to the NAND. That doesn't work for me.
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > 2) Next I tried technique one from Fedora 10 but the
>> >>>>>>> > livecd-iso-to-disk
>> >>>>>>> > does
>> >>>>>>> > not have the --xo options. It looks like those instructions use
>> >>>>>>> > a newer
>> >>>>>>> > version of livecd-tools. Is this impossible from Fedora 10? What
>> >>>>>>> > else
>> >>>>>>> > should
>> >>>>>>> > I be using.
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > Dave
>> >>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>> >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Martin Dengler
>> >>>>>>> >> <martin at martindengler.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> >> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 02:28:08PM +0100, Sean DALY wrote:
>> >>>>>>> >> >>
>> >>>>>>> >> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation/OLPC
>> >>>>>>> >> >>
>> >>>>>>> >> >> I am late writing an article on this and I'm not getting
>> >>>>>>> >> >> anywhere
>> >>>>>>> >> >> because I can't boot either of my XOs from USB.
>> >>>>>>> >> >
>> >>>>>>> >> > I've had plenty of success booting from NAND and USB.>
>> >>>>>>> >> >
>> >>>>>>> >> >> * I see that most recent image is SoaS-2, is this what we
>> >>>>>>> >> >> want to
>> >>>>>>> >> >> recommend right now to G1G1 owners? Would a choice be
>> >>>>>>> >> >> better?
>> >>>>>>> >> >
>> >>>>>>> >> > SoaS-2 needs more testing and bugfixing IMHO.  We shouldn't
>> >>>>>>> >> > recommend
>> >>>>>>> >> > it to G1G1 owners unless they want to be testers.
>> >>>>>>> >> >
>> >>>>>>> >> >> * I can't boot my XO which is at firmware Q2E18 but I am
>> >>>>>>> >> >> ready to
>> >>>>>>> >> >> try
>> >>>>>>> >> >> a later firmware such as Q2E28 or Q2E34
>> >>>>>>> >> >
>> >>>>>>> >> > I don't think this is a firmware issue.  I was booting off
>> >>>>>>> >> > NAND with
>> >>>>>>> >> > Q2E19.
>> >>>>>>> >> >
>> >>>>>>> >> >> Sean
>> >>>>>>> >> >
>> >>>>>>> >> > Martin
>> >>>>>>> >> >
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>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> >
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>> >>>>>>> > dave at solutiongrove.com
>> >>>>>>> > http://www.solutiongrove.com
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