[Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

[Caroline Meeks]

If there any belief that either FAT or FAT32 formatting is better then the
other? Is that something I should be trying when I have problems?

Thanks,
Caroline

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>wrote:

> Great. So do you think the problem was the SoaS image or FAT vs FAT32?
>  I do recall that OFW used to be finicky about USB keys that no longer
> had their factory formatting.
>
> -walter
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Success booting an XO-1 with March 23rd SoaS-1!
> >
> > I allotted 130 Mb persistent storage on 2 Gb stick formatted FAT (not
> > FAT32) on WinXP then .iso loaded with fedora LiveUSB Creator v3.6.3
> > utility. (Note: utility insulted me for trying to overwrite the
> > bootable stick which wouldn't boot so reformat necessary)
> >
> > XO-1 Firmware rev: Q2E35
> >
> > USB key on boot no keypress=hangs at Xo symbol, no loading dot sequence
> > USB key on boot Check button pressed=shows Esc countdown
> >
> > press Esc in time then at ok Forth prompt, "boot" finds the stick &
> > starts Sugar 0.84.1
> >
> > verified on both XO-1s I have available...
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> OK, no boot from today's SoaS-2 in the slot
> >>
> >> However, when rebooting, "Esc" countdown did not appear unless Check key
> pressed
> >>
> >> at OK forth prompt I typed:
> >> ok boot u:\boot\olpc.fth
> >>
> >>
> >> the script started then failed with this text:
> >>
> >> *************
> >> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/live-rw,
> >> missing codepage or helper program, or other error
> >> In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
> >> dmesg | tail or so
> >>
> >> Bug in initramfs /init detected. Dropping to a shell. Good luck!
> >>
> >> bash: no job control in this shell
> >> bash-4.0#
> >> *************
> >>
> >> Will try with last SoaS-1 image on my other XO thanks
> >>
> >> Sean
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> hmmm... yes, I downloaded and installed v3.2 on March 4th... four days
> >>> before the new version came out!
> >>>
> >>> the utility itself keeps as a big fat secret what version it is...
> >>>
> >>> I'll be happy if that fixes the problem... but upset if the 8 or 10
> >>> hours I have put in trying to boot useless sticks was because of
> >>> that... our wiki page really needs precise information... which by the
> >>> way I am willing to write, if I manage to boot my XO with a SoaS image
> >>> been trying for days on end :-(
> >>>
> >>> don't get me wrong I appreciate the utility's existence since I only
> >>> have Macs in the house and I don't know how to "burn" a USB .iso from
> >>> my two GNU/Linux netbooks or old PC with a liveCD
> >>>
> >>> OK, will try again
> >>>
> >>> many thanks
> >>>
> >>> Sean
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Wade Brainerd <wadetb at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> I believe only the most recent LiveUSB Creator programs will put an
> >>>> 'olpc.fth' on there for you.
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe the sticks were created with an older version?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>> OK thanks Wade
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you can tell me just which image you have, I can try with that
> one.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Same behavior with the SD card in or out, and on the other XO with no
> >>>>> SD card at all.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Neither the SoaS-1 (March 5th), nor the SoaS-2 (March 21st) have a
> >>>>> 'boot' directory, nor a '.fth' Forth script at all. If I stick one
> on,
> >>>>> will it boot?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I suspected this was the problem as I explored the sticks from the ok
> >>>>> prompt.... this is why we need some kind of integrity checker for a
> >>>>> "burned" stick, to check if anything is missing, or if the user has
> >>>>> monkeyed with files (Scout's honor I did not :-), or (say) the
> >>>>> timestamp of an x.org config file, etc.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> thanks
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sean
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Wade Brainerd <wadetb at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>> Hey Sean,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> FWIW I have successfully booted my XO-1 from SoaS-1 using an older
> image, I
> >>>>>> haven't tried the latest.  I used LiveUSB Creator for Windows with a
> PATRIOT
> >>>>>> 2GB stick.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What you might be seeing is that you have a SD card with a bootable
> >>>>>> partition on your XO.  I think that might take priority over booting
> from
> >>>>>> USB.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You can boot manually from OFW.. something like
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ok boot u:\boot\olpc.fth
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> should locate 'boot\olpc.fth' on the USB key and start it manually.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -Wade
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm sorry, but I'm a bit confused here, is it possible or not at
> this
> >>>>>>> time to boot an XO-1 from a SoaS image (as we claim on the wiki:
> >>>>>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation/OLPC)?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> if so, how? since the instructions for Option 1 on the wiki page
> are
> >>>>>>> not working for me.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I see there is a new SoaS-2 image in there, again, I don't think we
> >>>>>>> should be recommending to G1G1 owners they use that one yet?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> As I say, I have doubts about the SoaS-1 and SoaS-2 sticks I am
> using,
> >>>>>>> it appears the XO can't find anything to boot with on these sticks
> >>>>>>> while my Acer Aspire One boots up with both (?)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I suppose there's no way to boot manually from a stick from OFW?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sean
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Dave Bauer <dave.bauer at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > I am having a more fundamental issue.
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > 1) First I used liveusb-creator on windows with Soas1 and created
> the
> >>>>>>> > crc
> >>>>>>> > and img files to install to the NAND. That doesn't work for me.
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > 2) Next I tried technique one from Fedora 10 but the
> livecd-iso-to-disk
> >>>>>>> > does
> >>>>>>> > not have the --xo options. It looks like those instructions use a
> newer
> >>>>>>> > version of livecd-tools. Is this impossible from Fedora 10? What
> else
> >>>>>>> > should
> >>>>>>> > I be using.
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > Dave
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Martin Dengler
> >>>>>>> >> <martin at martindengler.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> >> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 02:28:08PM +0100, Sean DALY wrote:
> >>>>>>> >> >>
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation/OLPC
> >>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>> >> >> I am late writing an article on this and I'm not getting
> anywhere
> >>>>>>> >> >> because I can't boot either of my XOs from USB.
> >>>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>>> >> > I've had plenty of success booting from NAND and USB.>
> >>>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>>> >> >> * I see that most recent image is SoaS-2, is this what we
> want to
> >>>>>>> >> >> recommend right now to G1G1 owners? Would a choice be better?
> >>>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>>> >> > SoaS-2 needs more testing and bugfixing IMHO.  We shouldn't
> recommend
> >>>>>>> >> > it to G1G1 owners unless they want to be testers.
> >>>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>>> >> >> * I can't boot my XO which is at firmware Q2E18 but I am
> ready to
> >>>>>>> >> >> try
> >>>>>>> >> >> a later firmware such as Q2E28 or Q2E34
> >>>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>>> >> > I don't think this is a firmware issue.  I was booting off
> NAND with
> >>>>>>> >> > Q2E19.
> >>>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>>> >> >> Sean
> >>>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>>> >> > Martin
> >>>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>>>> >> Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> >>>>>>> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > --
> >>>>>>> > Dave Bauer
> >>>>>>> > dave at solutiongrove.com
> >>>>>>> > http://www.solutiongrove.com
> >>>>>>> >
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
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