[Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

[Sean DALY]

The biggest problem was, I had used an ancient version of the fedora
utility from way back at the beginning of March (!) which didn't load
any of /boot/olpc.fth

The SoaS-2 March 21st I booted the Aspire One with yesterday I had
done with Unetbootin for Windows. The SoaS-2 March 25th done with
fedora liveusb v3.6.3 doesn't boot the Aspire, nor does the SoaS-1
image I'm booting the XOs with.

But... the ok Forth countdown is behaving differently with the
firmware upgrade - countdown will only appear with check button
pressed, and SoaS invoked with boot command - does not boot by itself

Sean


On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
> Great. So do you think the problem was the SoaS image or FAT vs FAT32?
>  I do recall that OFW used to be finicky about USB keys that no longer
> had their factory formatting.
>
> -walter
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Success booting an XO-1 with March 23rd SoaS-1!
>>
>> I allotted 130 Mb persistent storage on 2 Gb stick formatted FAT (not
>> FAT32) on WinXP then .iso loaded with fedora LiveUSB Creator v3.6.3
>> utility. (Note: utility insulted me for trying to overwrite the
>> bootable stick which wouldn't boot so reformat necessary)
>>
>> XO-1 Firmware rev: Q2E35
>>
>> USB key on boot no keypress=hangs at Xo symbol, no loading dot sequence
>> USB key on boot Check button pressed=shows Esc countdown
>>
>> press Esc in time then at ok Forth prompt, "boot" finds the stick &
>> starts Sugar 0.84.1
>>
>> verified on both XO-1s I have available...
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> OK, no boot from today's SoaS-2 in the slot
>>>
>>> However, when rebooting, "Esc" countdown did not appear unless Check key pressed
>>>
>>> at OK forth prompt I typed:
>>> ok boot u:\boot\olpc.fth
>>>
>>>
>>> the script started then failed with this text:
>>>
>>> *************
>>> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/live-rw,
>>> missing codepage or helper program, or other error
>>> In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
>>> dmesg | tail or so
>>>
>>> Bug in initramfs /init detected. Dropping to a shell. Good luck!
>>>
>>> bash: no job control in this shell
>>> bash-4.0#
>>> *************
>>>
>>> Will try with last SoaS-1 image on my other XO thanks
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> hmmm... yes, I downloaded and installed v3.2 on March 4th... four days
>>>> before the new version came out!
>>>>
>>>> the utility itself keeps as a big fat secret what version it is...
>>>>
>>>> I'll be happy if that fixes the problem... but upset if the 8 or 10
>>>> hours I have put in trying to boot useless sticks was because of
>>>> that... our wiki page really needs precise information... which by the
>>>> way I am willing to write, if I manage to boot my XO with a SoaS image
>>>> been trying for days on end :-(
>>>>
>>>> don't get me wrong I appreciate the utility's existence since I only
>>>> have Macs in the house and I don't know how to "burn" a USB .iso from
>>>> my two GNU/Linux netbooks or old PC with a liveCD
>>>>
>>>> OK, will try again
>>>>
>>>> many thanks
>>>>
>>>> Sean
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Wade Brainerd <wadetb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I believe only the most recent LiveUSB Creator programs will put an
>>>>> 'olpc.fth' on there for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe the sticks were created with an older version?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> OK thanks Wade
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you can tell me just which image you have, I can try with that one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Same behavior with the SD card in or out, and on the other XO with no
>>>>>> SD card at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neither the SoaS-1 (March 5th), nor the SoaS-2 (March 21st) have a
>>>>>> 'boot' directory, nor a '.fth' Forth script at all. If I stick one on,
>>>>>> will it boot?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suspected this was the problem as I explored the sticks from the ok
>>>>>> prompt.... this is why we need some kind of integrity checker for a
>>>>>> "burned" stick, to check if anything is missing, or if the user has
>>>>>> monkeyed with files (Scout's honor I did not :-), or (say) the
>>>>>> timestamp of an x.org config file, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Wade Brainerd <wadetb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hey Sean,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FWIW I have successfully booted my XO-1 from SoaS-1 using an older image, I
>>>>>>> haven't tried the latest.  I used LiveUSB Creator for Windows with a PATRIOT
>>>>>>> 2GB stick.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What you might be seeing is that you have a SD card with a bootable
>>>>>>> partition on your XO.  I think that might take priority over booting from
>>>>>>> USB.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can boot manually from OFW.. something like
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ok boot u:\boot\olpc.fth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> should locate 'boot\olpc.fth' on the USB key and start it manually.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Wade
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm sorry, but I'm a bit confused here, is it possible or not at this
>>>>>>>> time to boot an XO-1 from a SoaS image (as we claim on the wiki:
>>>>>>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation/OLPC)?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> if so, how? since the instructions for Option 1 on the wiki page are
>>>>>>>> not working for me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I see there is a new SoaS-2 image in there, again, I don't think we
>>>>>>>> should be recommending to G1G1 owners they use that one yet?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As I say, I have doubts about the SoaS-1 and SoaS-2 sticks I am using,
>>>>>>>> it appears the XO can't find anything to boot with on these sticks
>>>>>>>> while my Acer Aspire One boots up with both (?)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suppose there's no way to boot manually from a stick from OFW?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Dave Bauer <dave.bauer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > I am having a more fundamental issue.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > 1) First I used liveusb-creator on windows with Soas1 and created the
>>>>>>>> > crc
>>>>>>>> > and img files to install to the NAND. That doesn't work for me.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > 2) Next I tried technique one from Fedora 10 but the livecd-iso-to-disk
>>>>>>>> > does
>>>>>>>> > not have the --xo options. It looks like those instructions use a newer
>>>>>>>> > version of livecd-tools. Is this impossible from Fedora 10? What else
>>>>>>>> > should
>>>>>>>> > I be using.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Dave
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Martin Dengler
>>>>>>>> >> <martin at martindengler.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 02:28:08PM +0100, Sean DALY wrote:
>>>>>>>> >> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation/OLPC
>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >> I am late writing an article on this and I'm not getting anywhere
>>>>>>>> >> >> because I can't boot either of my XOs from USB.
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> > I've had plenty of success booting from NAND and USB.>
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> >> * I see that most recent image is SoaS-2, is this what we want to
>>>>>>>> >> >> recommend right now to G1G1 owners? Would a choice be better?
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> > SoaS-2 needs more testing and bugfixing IMHO.  We shouldn't recommend
>>>>>>>> >> > it to G1G1 owners unless they want to be testers.
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> >> * I can't boot my XO which is at firmware Q2E18 but I am ready to
>>>>>>>> >> >> try
>>>>>>>> >> >> a later firmware such as Q2E28 or Q2E34
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> > I don't think this is a firmware issue.  I was booting off NAND with
>>>>>>>> >> > Q2E19.
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> >> Sean
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> > Martin
>>>>>>>> >> >
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>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>>> > Dave Bauer
>>>>>>>> > dave at solutiongrove.com
>>>>>>>> > http://www.solutiongrove.com
>>>>>>>> >
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