[Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

[Walter Bender]

Great. So do you think the problem was the SoaS image or FAT vs FAT32?
 I do recall that OFW used to be finicky about USB keys that no longer
had their factory formatting.

-walter

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
> Success booting an XO-1 with March 23rd SoaS-1!
>
> I allotted 130 Mb persistent storage on 2 Gb stick formatted FAT (not
> FAT32) on WinXP then .iso loaded with fedora LiveUSB Creator v3.6.3
> utility. (Note: utility insulted me for trying to overwrite the
> bootable stick which wouldn't boot so reformat necessary)
>
> XO-1 Firmware rev: Q2E35
>
> USB key on boot no keypress=hangs at Xo symbol, no loading dot sequence
> USB key on boot Check button pressed=shows Esc countdown
>
> press Esc in time then at ok Forth prompt, "boot" finds the stick &
> starts Sugar 0.84.1
>
> verified on both XO-1s I have available...
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>> OK, no boot from today's SoaS-2 in the slot
>>
>> However, when rebooting, "Esc" countdown did not appear unless Check key pressed
>>
>> at OK forth prompt I typed:
>> ok boot u:\boot\olpc.fth
>>
>>
>> the script started then failed with this text:
>>
>> *************
>> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/live-rw,
>> missing codepage or helper program, or other error
>> In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
>> dmesg | tail or so
>>
>> Bug in initramfs /init detected. Dropping to a shell. Good luck!
>>
>> bash: no job control in this shell
>> bash-4.0#
>> *************
>>
>> Will try with last SoaS-1 image on my other XO thanks
>>
>> Sean
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> hmmm... yes, I downloaded and installed v3.2 on March 4th... four days
>>> before the new version came out!
>>>
>>> the utility itself keeps as a big fat secret what version it is...
>>>
>>> I'll be happy if that fixes the problem... but upset if the 8 or 10
>>> hours I have put in trying to boot useless sticks was because of
>>> that... our wiki page really needs precise information... which by the
>>> way I am willing to write, if I manage to boot my XO with a SoaS image
>>> been trying for days on end :-(
>>>
>>> don't get me wrong I appreciate the utility's existence since I only
>>> have Macs in the house and I don't know how to "burn" a USB .iso from
>>> my two GNU/Linux netbooks or old PC with a liveCD
>>>
>>> OK, will try again
>>>
>>> many thanks
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Wade Brainerd <wadetb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I believe only the most recent LiveUSB Creator programs will put an
>>>> 'olpc.fth' on there for you.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe the sticks were created with an older version?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> OK thanks Wade
>>>>>
>>>>> If you can tell me just which image you have, I can try with that one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Same behavior with the SD card in or out, and on the other XO with no
>>>>> SD card at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neither the SoaS-1 (March 5th), nor the SoaS-2 (March 21st) have a
>>>>> 'boot' directory, nor a '.fth' Forth script at all. If I stick one on,
>>>>> will it boot?
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspected this was the problem as I explored the sticks from the ok
>>>>> prompt.... this is why we need some kind of integrity checker for a
>>>>> "burned" stick, to check if anything is missing, or if the user has
>>>>> monkeyed with files (Scout's honor I did not :-), or (say) the
>>>>> timestamp of an x.org config file, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Sean
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Wade Brainerd <wadetb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hey Sean,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FWIW I have successfully booted my XO-1 from SoaS-1 using an older image, I
>>>>>> haven't tried the latest.  I used LiveUSB Creator for Windows with a PATRIOT
>>>>>> 2GB stick.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What you might be seeing is that you have a SD card with a bootable
>>>>>> partition on your XO.  I think that might take priority over booting from
>>>>>> USB.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can boot manually from OFW.. something like
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ok boot u:\boot\olpc.fth
>>>>>>
>>>>>> should locate 'boot\olpc.fth' on the USB key and start it manually.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Wade
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm sorry, but I'm a bit confused here, is it possible or not at this
>>>>>>> time to boot an XO-1 from a SoaS image (as we claim on the wiki:
>>>>>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation/OLPC)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if so, how? since the instructions for Option 1 on the wiki page are
>>>>>>> not working for me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I see there is a new SoaS-2 image in there, again, I don't think we
>>>>>>> should be recommending to G1G1 owners they use that one yet?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As I say, I have doubts about the SoaS-1 and SoaS-2 sticks I am using,
>>>>>>> it appears the XO can't find anything to boot with on these sticks
>>>>>>> while my Acer Aspire One boots up with both (?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I suppose there's no way to boot manually from a stick from OFW?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Dave Bauer <dave.bauer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I am having a more fundamental issue.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > 1) First I used liveusb-creator on windows with Soas1 and created the
>>>>>>> > crc
>>>>>>> > and img files to install to the NAND. That doesn't work for me.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > 2) Next I tried technique one from Fedora 10 but the livecd-iso-to-disk
>>>>>>> > does
>>>>>>> > not have the --xo options. It looks like those instructions use a newer
>>>>>>> > version of livecd-tools. Is this impossible from Fedora 10? What else
>>>>>>> > should
>>>>>>> > I be using.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Dave
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Martin Dengler
>>>>>>> >> <martin at martindengler.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 02:28:08PM +0100, Sean DALY wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation/OLPC
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> I am late writing an article on this and I'm not getting anywhere
>>>>>>> >> >> because I can't boot either of my XOs from USB.
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > I've had plenty of success booting from NAND and USB.>
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> * I see that most recent image is SoaS-2, is this what we want to
>>>>>>> >> >> recommend right now to G1G1 owners? Would a choice be better?
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > SoaS-2 needs more testing and bugfixing IMHO.  We shouldn't recommend
>>>>>>> >> > it to G1G1 owners unless they want to be testers.
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> * I can't boot my XO which is at firmware Q2E18 but I am ready to
>>>>>>> >> >> try
>>>>>>> >> >> a later firmware such as Q2E28 or Q2E34
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > I don't think this is a firmware issue.  I was booting off NAND with
>>>>>>> >> > Q2E19.
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> Sean
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > Martin
>>>>>>> >> >
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>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>> > Dave Bauer
>>>>>>> > dave at solutiongrove.com
>>>>>>> > http://www.solutiongrove.com
>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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