[Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

Sean DALY sdaly.be at gmail.com
Wed Mar 25 18:05:56 EDT 2009


Success booting an XO-1 with March 23rd SoaS-1!

I allotted 130 Mb persistent storage on 2 Gb stick formatted FAT (not
FAT32) on WinXP then .iso loaded with fedora LiveUSB Creator v3.6.3
utility. (Note: utility insulted me for trying to overwrite the
bootable stick which wouldn't boot so reformat necessary)

XO-1 Firmware rev: Q2E35

USB key on boot no keypress=hangs at Xo symbol, no loading dot sequence
USB key on boot Check button pressed=shows Esc countdown

press Esc in time then at ok Forth prompt, "boot" finds the stick &
starts Sugar 0.84.1

verified on both XO-1s I have available...


On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
> OK, no boot from today's SoaS-2 in the slot
>
> However, when rebooting, "Esc" countdown did not appear unless Check key pressed
>
> at OK forth prompt I typed:
> ok boot u:\boot\olpc.fth
>
>
> the script started then failed with this text:
>
> *************
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/live-rw,
> missing codepage or helper program, or other error
> In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
> dmesg | tail or so
>
> Bug in initramfs /init detected. Dropping to a shell. Good luck!
>
> bash: no job control in this shell
> bash-4.0#
> *************
>
> Will try with last SoaS-1 image on my other XO thanks
>
> Sean
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>> hmmm... yes, I downloaded and installed v3.2 on March 4th... four days
>> before the new version came out!
>>
>> the utility itself keeps as a big fat secret what version it is...
>>
>> I'll be happy if that fixes the problem... but upset if the 8 or 10
>> hours I have put in trying to boot useless sticks was because of
>> that... our wiki page really needs precise information... which by the
>> way I am willing to write, if I manage to boot my XO with a SoaS image
>> been trying for days on end :-(
>>
>> don't get me wrong I appreciate the utility's existence since I only
>> have Macs in the house and I don't know how to "burn" a USB .iso from
>> my two GNU/Linux netbooks or old PC with a liveCD
>>
>> OK, will try again
>>
>> many thanks
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Wade Brainerd <wadetb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I believe only the most recent LiveUSB Creator programs will put an
>>> 'olpc.fth' on there for you.
>>>
>>> Maybe the sticks were created with an older version?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> OK thanks Wade
>>>>
>>>> If you can tell me just which image you have, I can try with that one.
>>>>
>>>> Same behavior with the SD card in or out, and on the other XO with no
>>>> SD card at all.
>>>>
>>>> Neither the SoaS-1 (March 5th), nor the SoaS-2 (March 21st) have a
>>>> 'boot' directory, nor a '.fth' Forth script at all. If I stick one on,
>>>> will it boot?
>>>>
>>>> I suspected this was the problem as I explored the sticks from the ok
>>>> prompt.... this is why we need some kind of integrity checker for a
>>>> "burned" stick, to check if anything is missing, or if the user has
>>>> monkeyed with files (Scout's honor I did not :-), or (say) the
>>>> timestamp of an x.org config file, etc.
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>> Sean
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Wade Brainerd <wadetb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hey Sean,
>>>>>
>>>>> FWIW I have successfully booted my XO-1 from SoaS-1 using an older image, I
>>>>> haven't tried the latest.  I used LiveUSB Creator for Windows with a PATRIOT
>>>>> 2GB stick.
>>>>>
>>>>> What you might be seeing is that you have a SD card with a bootable
>>>>> partition on your XO.  I think that might take priority over booting from
>>>>> USB.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can boot manually from OFW.. something like
>>>>>
>>>>> ok boot u:\boot\olpc.fth
>>>>>
>>>>> should locate 'boot\olpc.fth' on the USB key and start it manually.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Wade
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sorry, but I'm a bit confused here, is it possible or not at this
>>>>>> time to boot an XO-1 from a SoaS image (as we claim on the wiki:
>>>>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation/OLPC)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if so, how? since the instructions for Option 1 on the wiki page are
>>>>>> not working for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see there is a new SoaS-2 image in there, again, I don't think we
>>>>>> should be recommending to G1G1 owners they use that one yet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I say, I have doubts about the SoaS-1 and SoaS-2 sticks I am using,
>>>>>> it appears the XO can't find anything to boot with on these sticks
>>>>>> while my Acer Aspire One boots up with both (?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suppose there's no way to boot manually from a stick from OFW?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Dave Bauer <dave.bauer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I am having a more fundamental issue.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 1) First I used liveusb-creator on windows with Soas1 and created the
>>>>>> > crc
>>>>>> > and img files to install to the NAND. That doesn't work for me.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 2) Next I tried technique one from Fedora 10 but the livecd-iso-to-disk
>>>>>> > does
>>>>>> > not have the --xo options. It looks like those instructions use a newer
>>>>>> > version of livecd-tools. Is this impossible from Fedora 10? What else
>>>>>> > should
>>>>>> > I be using.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Dave
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Martin Dengler
>>>>>> >> <martin at martindengler.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 02:28:08PM +0100, Sean DALY wrote:
>>>>>> >> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation/OLPC
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> I am late writing an article on this and I'm not getting anywhere
>>>>>> >> >> because I can't boot either of my XOs from USB.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > I've had plenty of success booting from NAND and USB.>
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> * I see that most recent image is SoaS-2, is this what we want to
>>>>>> >> >> recommend right now to G1G1 owners? Would a choice be better?
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > SoaS-2 needs more testing and bugfixing IMHO.  We shouldn't recommend
>>>>>> >> > it to G1G1 owners unless they want to be testers.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> * I can't boot my XO which is at firmware Q2E18 but I am ready to
>>>>>> >> >> try
>>>>>> >> >> a later firmware such as Q2E28 or Q2E34
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > I don't think this is a firmware issue.  I was booting off NAND with
>>>>>> >> > Q2E19.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> Sean
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Martin
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> >> Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>>> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> > Dave Bauer
>>>>>> > dave at solutiongrove.com
>>>>>> > http://www.solutiongrove.com
>>>>>> >
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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