[Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Marketing to parents...
Sean DALY
sdaly.be at gmail.com
Thu Mar 19 18:21:57 EDT 2009
One-click-on-a-pancake-button-installer for each system is the Holy Grail.
What works with the virtualization solution for nonengineers is the
simple procedure: by following the wiki page step by step, I was able
to get Sugar running on an Intel Mac Mini in 15 minutes.
Whereas changing BIOS boot order can be tricky. I had an EeePC which
wouldn't boot from the internal disk after I set the USB port to first
position. I wasted over an hour with my old PC fiddling around in the
BIOS until I learned on some forum that the motherboard is so old
(2003) and the most recent firmware too (2004), it's not even possible
to boot from USB!
Sean
2009/3/19 Caroline Meeks <caroline at solutiongrove.com>:
> Sameer and Wade
>
> I like the idea. I suggest putting in a ticket and lets see if we can get a
> volunteer to work on it.
>
> Thanks,
> Caroline
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Wade Brainerd <wadetb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sameer,
>>
>> A one click installer for Windows should be quite possible to do. I
>> set something similar up for the OLPC XO Software
>> last year using QEMU:
>>
>> http://dev.laptop.org/~wadeb/OLPC-XO-Software-8.2.0-Setup.exe
>>
>> You could give that to them, but they would be stick using an older
>> version of Sugar.
>>
>> Or, if anyone would like to step up to try to do this for SoaS, the
>> source code to the installer is located at:
>> http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/wadeb/wininstall/.git/
>>
>> There may be some issues installing the QEMU accelerator module under
>> Vista.
>>
>> Further discussion of the VM topic is here:
>> http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/114
>>
>> We are almost there - the SoaS team is producing .vmdk files, we just
>> need to set up the packaging and testing (and to finally choose a
>> virtualization software).
>>
>> Best,
>> Wade
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Sameer Verma <sverma at sfsu.edu> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > I had the opportunity to do a presentation to a group of parents at a
>> > local Montessori school. Some of the parents got back to me and want
>> > to run Sugar at home. After talking to them for a bit, I realized that
>> > the packaging is still difficult for most non-tech people.
>> >
>> > 1) Many don't know how to boot from USB.
>> > 2) Thought BIOS was some extra software they needed to buy.
>> > 3) Have a notion that Sugar is yet another title that will install on
>> > Windows.
>> >
>> > I found that they were so far away from anything technical, that I
>> > really couldn't explain the whole GNU/Linux thing and not scare them
>> > away!
>> >
>> > So, in running with #3, I have a suggestion. We package a VM image + a
>> > player into a Windows friendly installer (next, next, next, done.
>> > wizard), which will let parents install the VM as if it were another
>> > Windows software title.
>> >
>> > In the mean time, I've agreed to build SoaS for these parents, but
>> > they are wary of something that doesn't somehow show their Windows
>> > desktop while running Sugar.
>> >
>> > Sameer
>> > --
>> > Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D.
>> > Associate Professor of Information Systems
>> > San Francisco State University
>> > San Francisco CA 94132 USA
>> > http://verma.sfsu.edu/
>> > http://opensource.sfsu.edu/
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