[Sugar-devel] Sugar Labs

[Bryan Berry]

Felipe,

"never bet against the browser" is absolutely true

However, gnash is roughly 2-3 developer years behind macromedia flash.
the big hurdle is adding support for ActionScript3 to Gnash.

I don't think that better integrating Gnash into Sugar would be the best
use of your time. The better bet is to integrate activities created with
javascript + html5 into Sugar. 

I earlier advocated a framework called "Karma" for integrating flash
swfs into Sugar. I now believe that javascript + html5 is a much better
bet because it better adheres to our common belief in open-source and
allows "View Source." Also, there are far more javascript developers out
there than flash developers. This new rework of Karma could take
advantage of projects like jquery-UI and new javascript animation
libraries like processing.js and GX.

You could start out by trying to recreate some of OLE Nepal's existing
flash activities as javascript + html5. You can find some here:
http://www.pustakalaya.org/external-content/static/epaath/E-Paath-2.activity/activity/Activity/MenuStage.html

If you are interested in such a project, I am definitely be interested
in mentoring you. I have to warn you though that I am professionally a
project manager and not a software engineer. In fact my software
development skills are extremely limited beyond writing broken python
scripts.


-- 
Bryan W. Berry
Technology Director
OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org


On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 15:37 -0600, Jameson Quinn wrote:
> Flash is still not open source, and that creates issues when
> distributing it (Adobe does not let you include it pre-installed in
> images for download).
> 
> Bryan Berry from OLE Nepal (cc:ed on this mail) has some good ideas
> about how that idea should work, though he's not signed up as a
> mentor. You should think about your design, and then discuss it with
> him AND on the sugar-devel mailing list.
> 
> Jameson
> 
> 2009/3/17 Felipe López Toledo <zer.subzero at gmail.com>
>         Thanks.
>         
>         I'm interested:
>                         SWF Sugar 
>                               * Integrate SWF (Flash/Gnash)
>                                 applications into Sugar.
>                               * Ideally, develop a demo activity which
>                                 could be used as a template for
>                                 sugarizing Flash/Gnash activities.
>                               * Priority for Sugar: Very High ("never
>                                 bet against the browser")
>                               * Difficulty (as a GSoC project): hard
>                               * Skills needed: SWF/Python integration
>         
>         why Gnash?, there is already a stable version of adobe player
>         for linux.
>         
>         really have very good ideas. Interesting!
>         
>         Greetings.
>         
>         
>         On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Jameson Quinn
>         <jameson.quinn at gmail.com> wrote:
>                 http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/ProjectIdeas
>                 
>                 Good hunting :)
>                 
>                 Jameson
>                 
>                 
>                 On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Felipe López Toledo
>                 <zer.subzero at gmail.com> wrote:
>                         Hi.
>                         
>                         I'm Felipe López Toledo, a university student
>                         I read your message
>                         (http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-discuss/browse_thread/thread/0cf911eb31087cd7?hl=en)
>                         I visited
>                         http://sugarlabs.org/index.php?template=page&page=learners
>                         
>                         relly good work!.
>                         
>                         it would be nice to see you in the GSoC 2009.
>                         by the way, do you have a project list?
>                         
>                         thanks.
>                         
>                         Felipe
>                         
>                 
>                 
>         
>         
> 
-- 
Bryan W. Berry
Technology Director
OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org