[Sugar-devel] easier installation of soas

Eben Eliason eben at laptop.org
Sun Mar 1 19:30:35 EST 2009

On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes Eben, solid colors are available too and may even be a little
> cheaper; the advantage of this particular model is the activity LED.

Ah, I see.  Well, if that's important then perhaps function will have
to win over form.

> If we do go with this supplier, I might be able to talk them into
> sending both a translucent/LED and an opaque sample.
> By the way if you know of any promotional USB suppliers with good
> stuff & decent pricing (including logo setup & shipping), I'm all
> ears. We need to move quickly to meet the deadline, but nothing's
> written in stone yet and I wouldn't mind breaking the $8 barrier.

I've got nothing off hand, but if I have a chance to investigate and
find anything interesting, I'll let you know. Thanks for doing this!

- Eben

> thanks
> Sean
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Eben Eliason <eben at laptop.org> wrote:
>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> thanks Eben
>>> In theory the logo printing is on the other side of the stick
>>> these "candidate" sticks are translucent plastic, and plastic is
>>> generally cheaper than metal, and especially colored (i.e. non-black
>>> or silver or gold) metal.
>> I meant to imply that black or white plastic looks less cheap to me,
>> and did not mean to imply that we should provide meta.  Unfortunately,
>> translucent plastic actually looks the cheapest, but oh well. (Who
>> knows, maybe it is the cheapest, and that's a Good Thing ;) )
>>> I have made the case to Christian (cf. the thread) that inverting the
>>> palette colors, e.g. a colored stick with a white logo (transition
>>> color outline) will be more impactful than a white stick with a
>>> colored logo (same transition color outline). He has promised to mock
>>> that up in the next few days so we will have an idea.
>> Right.  I think one or the other needs to be colorless, so a white
>> logo would probably work fine.  Let me just take this moment to
>> suggest that the logo will read far better in general on an opaque
>> background! (Does this provider have the option for non-translucent
>> sticks?)
>> - Eben
>>> Sean
>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Eben Eliason <eben at laptop.org> wrote:
>>>> Sean,
>>>> Awesome!
>>>> It looks to me like those sticks might be pretty hard to print on,
>>>> given the indentation near the cap, which cuts the printable area
>>>> nearly in half.  Also, my own instinct would be to choose black or
>>>> white plastic to be consistent with the guidelines for using the Sugar
>>>> Labs logo, and to make the colors of the logo itself pop.  (Also, I
>>>> tend to find colored plastic to look cheap in general, but that could
>>>> just be me ;) )
>>>> Of course, one could argue that kids would rather the stick itself be
>>>> colored, but in that case we might have to use a monochrome logo,
>>>> which would be unfortunate in my mind. I see that you're in touch with
>>>> Christian about the logo already, so he may have some insights there
>>>> as well.
>>>> - Eben
>>>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Eben - FYI I am pricing the first run of 100 Sugar Labs branded USB
>>>>> sticks now, if you have a moment please look at:
>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/2009-February/000341.html
>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/2009-February/000363.html
>>>>> thanks
>>>>> Sean
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Eben Eliason <eben at laptop.org> wrote:
>>>>>> As I understand it, this cannot be so simple because it needs to be a
>>>>>> bootable image, and not just a set of files.  I'd also suspect there's
>>>>>> partitioning being done (not sure) so that user data can still be
>>>>>> stored on it as well.
>>>>>> An alternative proposal (if Sugar Labs is willing to assume the
>>>>>> overhead involved) is to offer "Sugarsticks" at cost to those who want
>>>>>> them.  We could even brand them with the sugar logo, perhaps, in its
>>>>>> variety of colors.  Reducing the barrier to entry like this would make
>>>>>> it really easy for people to try, and "commercializing" like this
>>>>>> gives the project a certain credibility; a realness.
>>>>>> In a way, we could give kids an attachment to their "Sugarstick"
>>>>>> similar to that of kids to their XOs.
>>>>>> - Eben
>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> I'm wondering if it may be possible to lower further the barrier for
>>>>>>> the less technical users that want to download sugar on a stick.
>>>>>>> Maybe we could offer a .zip for download that can be expanded on a
>>>>>>> bootable usb stick and just work?
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Tomeu
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