[Sugar-devel] easier installation of soas

Sean DALY sdaly.be at gmail.com
Sun Mar 1 19:22:22 EST 2009

Yes Eben, solid colors are available too and may even be a little
cheaper; the advantage of this particular model is the activity LED.

If we do go with this supplier, I might be able to talk them into
sending both a translucent/LED and an opaque sample.

By the way if you know of any promotional USB suppliers with good
stuff & decent pricing (including logo setup & shipping), I'm all
ears. We need to move quickly to meet the deadline, but nothing's
written in stone yet and I wouldn't mind breaking the $8 barrier.


On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Eben Eliason <eben at laptop.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>> thanks Eben
>> In theory the logo printing is on the other side of the stick
>> these "candidate" sticks are translucent plastic, and plastic is
>> generally cheaper than metal, and especially colored (i.e. non-black
>> or silver or gold) metal.
> I meant to imply that black or white plastic looks less cheap to me,
> and did not mean to imply that we should provide meta.  Unfortunately,
> translucent plastic actually looks the cheapest, but oh well. (Who
> knows, maybe it is the cheapest, and that's a Good Thing ;) )
>> I have made the case to Christian (cf. the thread) that inverting the
>> palette colors, e.g. a colored stick with a white logo (transition
>> color outline) will be more impactful than a white stick with a
>> colored logo (same transition color outline). He has promised to mock
>> that up in the next few days so we will have an idea.
> Right.  I think one or the other needs to be colorless, so a white
> logo would probably work fine.  Let me just take this moment to
> suggest that the logo will read far better in general on an opaque
> background! (Does this provider have the option for non-translucent
> sticks?)
> - Eben
>> Sean
>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Eben Eliason <eben at laptop.org> wrote:
>>> Sean,
>>> Awesome!
>>> It looks to me like those sticks might be pretty hard to print on,
>>> given the indentation near the cap, which cuts the printable area
>>> nearly in half.  Also, my own instinct would be to choose black or
>>> white plastic to be consistent with the guidelines for using the Sugar
>>> Labs logo, and to make the colors of the logo itself pop.  (Also, I
>>> tend to find colored plastic to look cheap in general, but that could
>>> just be me ;) )
>>> Of course, one could argue that kids would rather the stick itself be
>>> colored, but in that case we might have to use a monochrome logo,
>>> which would be unfortunate in my mind. I see that you're in touch with
>>> Christian about the logo already, so he may have some insights there
>>> as well.
>>> - Eben
>>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Eben - FYI I am pricing the first run of 100 Sugar Labs branded USB
>>>> sticks now, if you have a moment please look at:
>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/2009-February/000341.html
>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/2009-February/000363.html
>>>> thanks
>>>> Sean
>>>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Eben Eliason <eben at laptop.org> wrote:
>>>>> As I understand it, this cannot be so simple because it needs to be a
>>>>> bootable image, and not just a set of files.  I'd also suspect there's
>>>>> partitioning being done (not sure) so that user data can still be
>>>>> stored on it as well.
>>>>> An alternative proposal (if Sugar Labs is willing to assume the
>>>>> overhead involved) is to offer "Sugarsticks" at cost to those who want
>>>>> them.  We could even brand them with the sugar logo, perhaps, in its
>>>>> variety of colors.  Reducing the barrier to entry like this would make
>>>>> it really easy for people to try, and "commercializing" like this
>>>>> gives the project a certain credibility; a realness.
>>>>> In a way, we could give kids an attachment to their "Sugarstick"
>>>>> similar to that of kids to their XOs.
>>>>> - Eben
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I'm wondering if it may be possible to lower further the barrier for
>>>>>> the less technical users that want to download sugar on a stick.
>>>>>> Maybe we could offer a .zip for download that can be expanded on a
>>>>>> bootable usb stick and just work?
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Tomeu
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