[Sugar-devel] easier installation of soas

[Eben Eliason]

On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
> thanks Eben
>
> In theory the logo printing is on the other side of the stick
>
> these "candidate" sticks are translucent plastic, and plastic is
> generally cheaper than metal, and especially colored (i.e. non-black
> or silver or gold) metal.

I meant to imply that black or white plastic looks less cheap to me,
and did not mean to imply that we should provide meta.  Unfortunately,
translucent plastic actually looks the cheapest, but oh well. (Who
knows, maybe it is the cheapest, and that's a Good Thing ;) )

> I have made the case to Christian (cf. the thread) that inverting the
> palette colors, e.g. a colored stick with a white logo (transition
> color outline) will be more impactful than a white stick with a
> colored logo (same transition color outline). He has promised to mock
> that up in the next few days so we will have an idea.

Right.  I think one or the other needs to be colorless, so a white
logo would probably work fine.  Let me just take this moment to
suggest that the logo will read far better in general on an opaque
background! (Does this provider have the option for non-translucent
sticks?)

- Eben

> Sean
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Eben Eliason <eben at laptop.org> wrote:
>> Sean,
>>
>> Awesome!
>>
>> It looks to me like those sticks might be pretty hard to print on,
>> given the indentation near the cap, which cuts the printable area
>> nearly in half.  Also, my own instinct would be to choose black or
>> white plastic to be consistent with the guidelines for using the Sugar
>> Labs logo, and to make the colors of the logo itself pop.  (Also, I
>> tend to find colored plastic to look cheap in general, but that could
>> just be me ;) )
>>
>> Of course, one could argue that kids would rather the stick itself be
>> colored, but in that case we might have to use a monochrome logo,
>> which would be unfortunate in my mind. I see that you're in touch with
>> Christian about the logo already, so he may have some insights there
>> as well.
>>
>> - Eben
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Eben - FYI I am pricing the first run of 100 Sugar Labs branded USB
>>> sticks now, if you have a moment please look at:
>>>
>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/2009-February/000341.html
>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/2009-February/000363.html
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Eben Eliason <eben at laptop.org> wrote:
>>>> As I understand it, this cannot be so simple because it needs to be a
>>>> bootable image, and not just a set of files.  I'd also suspect there's
>>>> partitioning being done (not sure) so that user data can still be
>>>> stored on it as well.
>>>>
>>>> An alternative proposal (if Sugar Labs is willing to assume the
>>>> overhead involved) is to offer "Sugarsticks" at cost to those who want
>>>> them.  We could even brand them with the sugar logo, perhaps, in its
>>>> variety of colors.  Reducing the barrier to entry like this would make
>>>> it really easy for people to try, and "commercializing" like this
>>>> gives the project a certain credibility; a realness.
>>>>
>>>> In a way, we could give kids an attachment to their "Sugarstick"
>>>> similar to that of kids to their XOs.
>>>>
>>>> - Eben
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm wondering if it may be possible to lower further the barrier for
>>>>> the less technical users that want to download sugar on a stick.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe we could offer a .zip for download that can be expanded on a
>>>>> bootable usb stick and just work?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tomeu
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