[Sugar-devel] easier installation of soas

[David Farning]

2009/3/1 Eben Eliason <eben at laptop.org>:
> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche <cafl at msbit.com> wrote:
>> Make the LiveCD have a usb maker on the desktop when launched.
>
> That's a really good idea, actually.
>
>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:41 PM, David Farning <dfarning at sugarlabs.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This become an issue of cost effectiveness.  I understand Branded USBs
>>> are on the order of $8 a stick.
>>>
>>> The Fedora Ambassadors tried giving away USB keys.  Thye found that
>>> they were not cost effective.  The high cost per unit combined with
>>> the low 'stick rate' made them unfeasible.  I understand everybody who
>>> walked by, grabbed a stick.  After all, who turns down a free USB
>>> stick.  With CDs people who grab one at least have some level of
>>> interest about the product.
>>>
>>> This leads me to believe that good old LiveCDs will continue to be our
>>> primary introduction method.  USB keys will be a higher cost method
>>> for higher potential users.
>
> Sure.  You raise a good point about interest.
>
> In any case, I was suggesting a web-driven means to purchase these
> "Sugarsticks", individually or in bulk; I didn't mean we should give
> them out for free.  But as you mention, it may not be cost-effective
> regardless, given the limited quantities we would need, at least in
> the short term.

Sorry if I hijacked your thread:)  I have no idea about the
effectiveness of either CDs of USBs as 'introductions' to Sugar.

But my mind does tend to drift towards, 'Where are we going to get the
resources to provide that?'

FWIW, As you guys continue to come up with good ideas, we will figure
out how to fund them:)

david

> Still, I think there is something to the "official-ness" of a branded
> solution for schools and other deployments.
>
> - Eben
>
>
>>> For example: We give a way CDs in our booth at a conference.   We give
>>> away USB sticks as part of Sugar related talks.
>>>
>>> david
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/3/1 Eben Eliason <eben at laptop.org>:
>>> > As I understand it, this cannot be so simple because it needs to be a
>>> > bootable image, and not just a set of files.  I'd also suspect there's
>>> > partitioning being done (not sure) so that user data can still be
>>> > stored on it as well.
>>> >
>>> > An alternative proposal (if Sugar Labs is willing to assume the
>>> > overhead involved) is to offer "Sugarsticks" at cost to those who want
>>> > them.  We could even brand them with the sugar logo, perhaps, in its
>>> > variety of colors.  Reducing the barrier to entry like this would make
>>> > it really easy for people to try, and "commercializing" like this
>>> > gives the project a certain credibility; a realness.
>>> >
>>> > In a way, we could give kids an attachment to their "Sugarstick"
>>> > similar to that of kids to their XOs.
>>> >
>>> > - Eben
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm wondering if it may be possible to lower further the barrier for
>>> >> the less technical users that want to download sugar on a stick.
>>> >>
>>> >> Maybe we could offer a .zip for download that can be expanded on a
>>> >> bootable usb stick and just work?
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >>
>>> >> Tomeu
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