[Sugar-devel] easier installation of soas

[Eben Eliason]

On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche <cafl at msbit.com> wrote:
> Make the LiveCD have a usb maker on the desktop when launched.

That's a really good idea, actually.

> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:41 PM, David Farning <dfarning at sugarlabs.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> This become an issue of cost effectiveness.  I understand Branded USBs
>> are on the order of $8 a stick.
>>
>> The Fedora Ambassadors tried giving away USB keys.  Thye found that
>> they were not cost effective.  The high cost per unit combined with
>> the low 'stick rate' made them unfeasible.  I understand everybody who
>> walked by, grabbed a stick.  After all, who turns down a free USB
>> stick.  With CDs people who grab one at least have some level of
>> interest about the product.
>>
>> This leads me to believe that good old LiveCDs will continue to be our
>> primary introduction method.  USB keys will be a higher cost method
>> for higher potential users.

Sure.  You raise a good point about interest.

In any case, I was suggesting a web-driven means to purchase these
"Sugarsticks", individually or in bulk; I didn't mean we should give
them out for free.  But as you mention, it may not be cost-effective
regardless, given the limited quantities we would need, at least in
the short term.

Still, I think there is something to the "official-ness" of a branded
solution for schools and other deployments.

- Eben


>> For example: We give a way CDs in our booth at a conference.   We give
>> away USB sticks as part of Sugar related talks.
>>
>> david
>>
>>
>> 2009/3/1 Eben Eliason <eben at laptop.org>:
>> > As I understand it, this cannot be so simple because it needs to be a
>> > bootable image, and not just a set of files.  I'd also suspect there's
>> > partitioning being done (not sure) so that user data can still be
>> > stored on it as well.
>> >
>> > An alternative proposal (if Sugar Labs is willing to assume the
>> > overhead involved) is to offer "Sugarsticks" at cost to those who want
>> > them.  We could even brand them with the sugar logo, perhaps, in its
>> > variety of colors.  Reducing the barrier to entry like this would make
>> > it really easy for people to try, and "commercializing" like this
>> > gives the project a certain credibility; a realness.
>> >
>> > In a way, we could give kids an attachment to their "Sugarstick"
>> > similar to that of kids to their XOs.
>> >
>> > - Eben
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I'm wondering if it may be possible to lower further the barrier for
>> >> the less technical users that want to download sugar on a stick.
>> >>
>> >> Maybe we could offer a .zip for download that can be expanded on a
>> >> bootable usb stick and just work?
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Tomeu
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