[Sugar-devel] Fw: Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound

Art Hunkins abhunkin at uncg.edu
Sun Jun 28 15:34:47 EDT 2009


Wonderful; *that* I can handle. (I'll attempt it periodically and report 
back.)

Any idea whether the same procedure will be available to update the OLPC?

Art Hunkins

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Robinson" <pbrobinson at gmail.com>
To: "Art Hunkins" <abhunkin at uncg.edu>
Cc: <sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Fw: Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound


>I a couple of days you should be able to do the following from the 
>terminal:
> su -
> yum upgrade
>
> And it should just pull it in.
>
> Peter
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Art Hunkins<abhunkin at uncg.edu> wrote:
>> Thanks for the hint, Peter. I am eager to try csound 5.10.1 as it 
>> contains a
>> feature that 5.08 lacks, and that I'd really like to use (i.e., multiple
>> MIDI controllers).
>>
>> However, as a newbee to Linux, I've no idea how this is done, 
>> particularly
>> about how to do this within SoaS.
>>
>> Hopefully, I'd only need to download csound 5.10.1 somehow and install it 
>> to
>> SoaS. (Incidentally, my primary OS is Windows XP.)
>>
>> Can you point me to basic instructions?
>>
>> Also: any idea as to when SoaS will incorporate Csound 5.10.1? (That 
>> would
>> be *great* for me!)
>>
>> Art Hunkins
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Robinson" 
>> <pbrobinson at gmail.com>
>> To: "Art Hunkins" <abhunkin at uncg.edu>
>> Cc: <sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 4:03 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Fw: Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound
>>
>>
>>> Can you possibly try csound 5.10.1 from F11 (same as SoaS). My
>>> understanding from various conversations about the difference between
>>> olpcsound and csound in Fedora was that it was forked because the
>>> version of csound was so old. That is no longer the case.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Art Hunkins<abhunkin at uncg.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi (a newbee here) -
>>>>
>>>> Below is a mail sent to the Csound developers listserv, seemingly about 
>>>> a
>>>> difference between build 802 on the OLPC, and SoaS. The difference 
>>>> leaves
>>>> those of us working with Victor Lazzarini's csndsugui (a git project 
>>>> and
>>>> Python utility for Csounders) dead in the water.
>>>>
>>>> Has any developer here an idea of the problem and what it will take to
>>>> solve
>>>> it? Specifically, are there any differences between SoaS and the 
>>>> current
>>>> Sugar implementation on the OLPC that could be responsible?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any insight.
>>>>
>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Art Hunkins" <abhunkin at uncg.edu>
>>>> To: <csound-devel at lists.sourceforge.net>
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:21 PM
>>>> Subject: Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I've been enjoying learning and working with Sugar on a Stick, which 
>>>>> is
>>>>> Sugar (the OLPC's) software loaded onto a 1gb USB drive. Booting from
>>>>> this
>>>>> "stick" transforms any Mac, Linux or PC effectively into an OLPC
>>>>> (running
>>>>> Sugar). Makes a handy development system.
>>>>>
>>>>> At any rate, my new OurMusic activity runs fine on the OLPC, but 
>>>>> aborts
>>>>> on
>>>>> SoaS (Sugar on a Stick). I then ran Victor's Waves activity, which
>>>>> exhibits the same behavior as did mine. Interestingly, the TamTam
>>>>> activities run fine on both systems. Also, the version of Csound,
>>>>> 5.08.91
>>>>> is identical. (Probably irrelevent info: the version of libsndfile for
>>>>> SoaS is 1.0.17; however, between Sugar v 8.1 and 8.2.1 I note that the
>>>>> versions changed from 1.0.17-2.fc7 to 1.0.17-3.fc9 (Fedora core 
>>>>> changing
>>>>> from 7 to 9).)
>>>>>
>>>>> I fear some incompatibility involving libsndfile and the Csound API, 
>>>>> and
>>>>> perhaps csndsugui? At any rate, those of us using these tools with 
>>>>> SoaS,
>>>>> are presently dead in the water.
>>>>>
>>>>> Below is the complete log generated by Waves.activity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/util.py:25: DeprecationWarning:
>>>>> the
>>>>> sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead
>>>>>
>>>>> import sha
>>>>>
>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>
>>>>> File "/usr/bin/sugar-activity", line 21, in <module>
>>>>>
>>>>> main.main()
>>>>>
>>>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/activity/main.py", line
>>>>> 105,
>>>>> in main
>>>>>
>>>>> module = __import__(module_name)
>>>>>
>>>>> File "/home/liveuser/Activities/Waves.activity/waves.py", line 1, in
>>>>> <module>
>>>>>
>>>>> import csndsugui
>>>>>
>>>>> File "/home/liveuser/Activities/Waves.activity/csndsugui.py", line 36,
>>>>> in
>>>>> <module>
>>>>>
>>>>> import csnd
>>>>>
>>>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/csnd.py", line 7, in <module>
>>>>>
>>>>> import _csnd
>>>>>
>>>>> ImportError: /usr/lib/libcsnd.so.5.1: undefined symbol:
>>>>> csoundGetInputBuffer
>>>>>
>>>>
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