[Sugar-devel] Some initial thoughts on i18n for Karma

[Felipe López Toledo]

>There is a somewhat undocumented algorithm to figure out fallback
>locale (eg: if locale is ne_NP, look inside ne_NP, if not found, look
>inside ne, and so on)
I really like this idea.

>so how about naming convention for the audio files
>langCode_htmlElementId.ogg   ?
you mean something like:

en_content.ogg//suppose content is <div id="content" ...>
en_answer.ogg //suppose answer is <div id="answer" ...>
?

felipe

2009/6/23 Bryan Berry <bryan at olenepal.org>

> On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 14:57 +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:
> > The above layout looks fine to me. I think it should be quite easy to
> > load <LANGCODE>/audiofile.ogg when you have the langcode.
> > There is a somewhat undocumented algorithm to figure out fallback
> > locale (eg: if locale is ne_NP, look inside ne_NP, if not found, look
> > inside ne, and so on)
> > Many years back, I wrote a hackish Python script to do it:
> > http://sayamindu.randomink.org/misc/get_language_names4.pytxt
>
> what do u think about my suggestion that we put LANGCODE in the file
> name? We have a huge archive of audio files at the OLE office and it is
> a major pain to differentiate b/w the Nepali audio files and the English
> audio files.
>
>
> so how about naming convention for the audio files
> langCode_htmlElementId.ogg   ?
>
>
> > Producing the audio files is going to be another issue. Pootle won't
> > be useful here - if we want to use the existing "crowdsourcing"
> > approach, we might have to develop a custom webapp (or extend Pootle)
> > to take in and handle audio files.
>
> I would really, really like to crowdsource audio. Short audio snippets
> are really essential to language learning. We have also found that our
> kids really like audio feedback during exercises.
>
>
> > Take a look at the javascript implementation of gettext:
> > http://jsgettext.berlios.de/doc/html/Gettext.html
> > Does it solve some of your problems ?
>
> Will read through and the let u know
>
> > > 2) What are some pitfalls I haven’t thought of?
> > > 3) How could we ensure dynamically generated numbers are presented in
> > > the locale without making the programmer’s job too hard?
> > >
> >
> > You mean native digits for numerals like ०१२३४... ?
>
> Yes
>
> > glibc 2.2 and
> > above has a flag character called I - so if you do printf ("%Id",
> > ...), it will give you the locale specific digit. I'm not sure if this
> > is available anywhere else though (Python does not have it - though I
> > have some ideas about implementing it)
>
> jquery.i18n utility seems to perform this service
> http://code.google.com/p/jquery-utils/wiki/I18N
>
> > > And a request: Pls, pls direct me to great i18n resources and guides.
> If
> > > there is already an established standard for this, I will be happy to
> > > copy it.
> > >
>
> > The gettext manual is the best place to begin work:
> > http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/gettext.html
>
> tks, i will definitely read thru that
>
> tks for all your help Sayamindu in this and many previous instances !
>
> --
> Bryan W. Berry
> Technology Director
> OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org
>
>
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