[Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Important: Please test the new Snapshot!

[Sebastian Dziallas]

A new snapshot is underway, building right now. As the build process 
takes rather long, I'll upload and announce it tomorrow morning.

Changes will include the new openchrome driver (fixes #730) and an 
updated Pippy version (from 25 to 31).

The final image will eventually be composed tomorrow evening (CEST)!

Cheers,
--Sebastian

Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
> I guess I should make some points here... comments inline ;)
>
> Caroline Meeks wrote:
>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Sebastian Dziallas<sebastian at when.com
>> <mailto:sebastian at when.com>>  wrote:
>>
>>      Caroline Meeks wrote:
>>
>>          On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Sebastian Dziallas
>>          <sebastian at when.com<mailto:sebastian at when.com>
>>          <mailto:sebastian at when.com<mailto:sebastian at when.com>>>  wrote:
>>
>>              Hey,
>>
>>              thanks for giving this a try. :) It's really important to get
>>              feedback here as it's one of the last snapshots before the
>>          release.
>>
>>
>>              Caroline Meeks wrote:
>>
>>                  Hi,
>>
>>                  Boots fine!
>>
>>                  I'm having screen problems on my IBM X40 in Colors and
>>          Pippy.
>>                    Attached
>>                  screenshots.
>>
>>
>>              Hrm! Pippy will be updated from 25 to 31 for the next snapshot
>>              (preparing that right now), but this looks somehow different. I
>>              suppose it has to do with the KMS technology, which has also
>>          been
>>              mentioned in the Mac support thread - btw, I guess we'll
>>          mention in
>>              the release notes that Mac users should try adding nomodeset, if
>>              they encounter any issues. Maybe you could try disabling it?
>>
>>
>>          I'm not on a mac, but that doesn't mean your wrong.  I am on a PC
>>          booting directly from the stick. How do I set nomodeset to test?
>>
>>
>>      When you boot SoaS from the stick, you'll see a blue background
>>      before it comes to the actual boot screen (with the dots). There,
>>      press ESC. It will bring you to a small menu, where Boot will be
>>      selected. Pres TAB there. You'll be able to edit the boot arguments.
>>      Just type nomodeset in there and press ENTER. It should boot now,
>>      without having KMS enabled.
>>
>>
>> That works!  It doesn't "stick" on my stick, if I reboot I have the same
>> problem.
>
> Yeah, that's normal. Unless you add the comment to the config file where
> the kernel parameters get specified (grub.conf, at least in earlier
> releases), you'll need to do so each time you boot.
>
>> Ok now we have a work around.  How do we get to a bug fix?
>
> Definitely not in time. This is also a KMS issue, which means that it's
> upstream. Fedora 11 will most certainly have the same issue. And
> obviously, we can't include the "nomodeset" parameter by default, as it
> would mean that everybody gets the text boot screen and not our shiny
> new "Strawberry" SoaS boot screen (the same goes for the Mac issues).
>
> So the best we can do right now is hinting in the release notes at the
> fact that this parameter might help on certain video hardware (would be
> great to know what you're using), as well as Macs.
>
>>                  Is it two late to change what is shown by default in the
>>          circle?
>>
>>
>>              Nope. Not yet. It's late, but not that late.
>>
>>
>>          How are we making this decision? Is there a wiki page I should be
>>          looking at/updating?
>>
>>
>>      I'm open for any suggestions and would discuss that with Simon (and
>>      you, I guess) on IRC, if needed.
>>
>>
>> I'll start a thread on IAEP, lets be open about it.
>
> Ah, I guess I got you wrong then. I think it's really not the time to
> discuss this a few hours before the final release gets composed.
>
> If there was a specific activity we should really pull or get in the
> ring for some reason, we could make an exception. But I suppose it would
> be the dev team's call then (which is what I pointed out above), given
> that feature freeze was more than a week ago.
>
> I've been requesting feedback on the activities we included with every
> single snapshot announcement, asking people to suggest activities they
> wanted to get in. I haven't heard from anybody.
>
>>                  Preloaded maps work fine. Is it too late to get anything
>>          else on
>>                  there?
>>                  Like the Sugar Manual?
>>
>>
>>              Well, we'd need to get this as a pdf file. And the
>>          description and
>>              tags for it. I'm not sure if this can be done in time. It's very
>>              very late for that. CC'ing Gary: What do you think?
>>
>>
>>          Solution Grove has been working on a Sugar on a Stick specific
>>          version.
>>          I've asked Pauline to take a look and see if it has much SG
>>          specific in
>>          it and we'll get that too you as soon as we can.
>>
>>
>>      Okay, cool!
>>
>>
>>                  Is Gnash on this version?
>>
>>
>>              Yup, the gnash-plugin is included, but it won't work on Youtube
>>              without the additional gstreamer packages from RPM Fusion
>>          (which we
>>              don't ship).
>>
>>
>>          When I run Flash things I'm getting a screen that looks very
>>          similar to
>>          the problems I have with Pippy and Colors.
>>
>>
>>      Interesting. Let's see if disabling KMS fixes this. Btw, on what
>>      graphics hardware are you trying it?
>>
>>
>> yes fixes. Thinkpad X40.
>>
>>
>>
>>                  Is the code that allows you to register Sugar on a Stick
>>          with
>>                  the XO on
>>                  this version.
>>
>>
>>               From what I know, it is not. The package which contains the
>>          logic
>>              (ds-backup-client) has neither been tested nor packaged for
>>          Fedora.
>>              So basically, it would needed to be packaged with these
>>          patches applied.
>>
>>
>>          Any volunteers to test? I think backup is very important.
>>
>>
>>      I'd doubt that we can find somebody in time for this release. Even I
>>      can't test it because I don't have an XS here. It means that
>>      somebody would need to grab the ds-backup-client RPM from OLPC and
>>      patch it with the code attached to the related ticket. I'm not sure
>>      how it would work... :/
>>
>>                  Thanks for all the hard work!!!
>>
>>                  Caroline
>>
>>
>>              Well, lets make this a great release. Strawberries for
>>          everyone! :)
>>
>>              --Sebastian
>>
>>                  On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Sebastian Dziallas
>>          <sebastian at when.com<mailto:sebastian at when.com>
>>          <mailto:sebastian at when.com<mailto:sebastian at when.com>>
>>          <mailto:sebastian at when.com<mailto:sebastian at when.com>
>>          <mailto:sebastian at when.com<mailto:sebastian at when.com>>>>  wrote:
>>
>>                      Hi everybody,
>>
>>                      I'm happy to announce eventually the availability of
>>          a new SoaS
>>                      snapshot, which is one of the last snapshots on our
>>          way to
>>                  the v1
>>          "Strawberry" release. I think it should be really mentioned that
>>                  this
>>                      wouldn't have been possible without Simon, who did great
>>                  work on fixing
>>                      sample content and activity installation issues. And
>>          this
>>                  brings me to
>>                      the changes this snapshot introduces.
>>
>>                      * You'll get sample content (#840) - Gary worked
>>          this out.
>>                      - Please report if you encounter a "journal full"
>>          message or
>>                  not!
>>
>>                      * The shiny new boot screen has now been introduced
>>          (#709).
>>
>>                      * Activities get installed in a new way (#929) to
>>          preserve
>>                  mimetypes.
>>
>>                      So again, please please test this! And if you've got
>>          some
>>                  spare minutes,
>>                      run through some activities and report it if they don't
>>                  work. If there's
>>                      any must-have activity on a.sl.o we haven't already
>>                  included, please let
>>                      me know, too.
>>
>>                      Finally, what's coming up next? As the final image
>>          for the
>>                  June 24
>>                      release will be composed today (!), there will be
>>          another
>>                  snapshot
>>                      before. There, we'll introduce minor changes and
>>          also try to
>>                  fix #730,
>>                      which should make SoaS working again on some VIA
>>          hardware.
>>
>>                      In the meantime, grab the snapshot from here (sorry, no
>>                  appliance images
>>                      for now, as we really focus on the live media for
>>          the release):
>>
>>          http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/2/Soas2-200906191638.iso
>>
>>                      That's it for now. I'm going to get some sleep, work
>>          will
>>                  continue later
>>                      today. Happy testing and please ping me, also on
>>          IRC, if there's
>>                      anything urgent.
>>
>>                      Cheers,
>>                      --Sebastian
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>>                  --
>>                  Caroline Meeks
>>                  Solution Grove
>>                  Caroline at SolutionGrove.com
>>
>>                  617-500-3488 - Office
>>                  505-213-3268 - Fax
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>          --
>>          Caroline Meeks
>>          Solution Grove
>>          Caroline at SolutionGrove.com
>>
>>          617-500-3488 - Office
>>          505-213-3268 - Fax
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Caroline Meeks
>> Solution Grove
>> Caroline at SolutionGrove.com
>>
>> 617-500-3488 - Office
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