[Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Important: Please test the new Snapshot!

[Sebastian Dziallas]

I guess I should make some points here... comments inline ;)

Caroline Meeks wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Sebastian Dziallas <sebastian at when.com
> <mailto:sebastian at when.com>> wrote:
>
>     Caroline Meeks wrote:
>
>         On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Sebastian Dziallas
>         <sebastian at when.com <mailto:sebastian at when.com>
>         <mailto:sebastian at when.com <mailto:sebastian at when.com>>> wrote:
>
>             Hey,
>
>             thanks for giving this a try. :) It's really important to get
>             feedback here as it's one of the last snapshots before the
>         release.
>
>
>             Caroline Meeks wrote:
>
>                 Hi,
>
>                 Boots fine!
>
>                 I'm having screen problems on my IBM X40 in Colors and
>         Pippy.
>                   Attached
>                 screenshots.
>
>
>             Hrm! Pippy will be updated from 25 to 31 for the next snapshot
>             (preparing that right now), but this looks somehow different. I
>             suppose it has to do with the KMS technology, which has also
>         been
>             mentioned in the Mac support thread - btw, I guess we'll
>         mention in
>             the release notes that Mac users should try adding nomodeset, if
>             they encounter any issues. Maybe you could try disabling it?
>
>
>         I'm not on a mac, but that doesn't mean your wrong.  I am on a PC
>         booting directly from the stick. How do I set nomodeset to test?
>
>
>     When you boot SoaS from the stick, you'll see a blue background
>     before it comes to the actual boot screen (with the dots). There,
>     press ESC. It will bring you to a small menu, where Boot will be
>     selected. Pres TAB there. You'll be able to edit the boot arguments.
>     Just type nomodeset in there and press ENTER. It should boot now,
>     without having KMS enabled.
>
>
> That works!  It doesn't "stick" on my stick, if I reboot I have the same
> problem.

Yeah, that's normal. Unless you add the comment to the config file where 
the kernel parameters get specified (grub.conf, at least in earlier 
releases), you'll need to do so each time you boot.

> Ok now we have a work around.  How do we get to a bug fix?

Definitely not in time. This is also a KMS issue, which means that it's 
upstream. Fedora 11 will most certainly have the same issue. And 
obviously, we can't include the "nomodeset" parameter by default, as it 
would mean that everybody gets the text boot screen and not our shiny 
new "Strawberry" SoaS boot screen (the same goes for the Mac issues).

So the best we can do right now is hinting in the release notes at the 
fact that this parameter might help on certain video hardware (would be 
great to know what you're using), as well as Macs.

>                 Is it two late to change what is shown by default in the
>         circle?
>
>
>             Nope. Not yet. It's late, but not that late.
>
>
>         How are we making this decision? Is there a wiki page I should be
>         looking at/updating?
>
>
>     I'm open for any suggestions and would discuss that with Simon (and
>     you, I guess) on IRC, if needed.
>
>
> I'll start a thread on IAEP, lets be open about it.

Ah, I guess I got you wrong then. I think it's really not the time to 
discuss this a few hours before the final release gets composed.

If there was a specific activity we should really pull or get in the 
ring for some reason, we could make an exception. But I suppose it would 
be the dev team's call then (which is what I pointed out above), given 
that feature freeze was more than a week ago.

I've been requesting feedback on the activities we included with every 
single snapshot announcement, asking people to suggest activities they 
wanted to get in. I haven't heard from anybody.

>                 Preloaded maps work fine. Is it too late to get anything
>         else on
>                 there?
>                 Like the Sugar Manual?
>
>
>             Well, we'd need to get this as a pdf file. And the
>         description and
>             tags for it. I'm not sure if this can be done in time. It's very
>             very late for that. CC'ing Gary: What do you think?
>
>
>         Solution Grove has been working on a Sugar on a Stick specific
>         version.
>         I've asked Pauline to take a look and see if it has much SG
>         specific in
>         it and we'll get that too you as soon as we can.
>
>
>     Okay, cool!
>
>
>                 Is Gnash on this version?
>
>
>             Yup, the gnash-plugin is included, but it won't work on Youtube
>             without the additional gstreamer packages from RPM Fusion
>         (which we
>             don't ship).
>
>
>         When I run Flash things I'm getting a screen that looks very
>         similar to
>         the problems I have with Pippy and Colors.
>
>
>     Interesting. Let's see if disabling KMS fixes this. Btw, on what
>     graphics hardware are you trying it?
>
>
> yes fixes. Thinkpad X40.
>
>
>
>                 Is the code that allows you to register Sugar on a Stick
>         with
>                 the XO on
>                 this version.
>
>
>              From what I know, it is not. The package which contains the
>         logic
>             (ds-backup-client) has neither been tested nor packaged for
>         Fedora.
>             So basically, it would needed to be packaged with these
>         patches applied.
>
>
>         Any volunteers to test? I think backup is very important.
>
>
>     I'd doubt that we can find somebody in time for this release. Even I
>     can't test it because I don't have an XS here. It means that
>     somebody would need to grab the ds-backup-client RPM from OLPC and
>     patch it with the code attached to the related ticket. I'm not sure
>     how it would work... :/
>
>                 Thanks for all the hard work!!!
>
>                 Caroline
>
>
>             Well, lets make this a great release. Strawberries for
>         everyone! :)
>
>             --Sebastian
>
>                 On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Sebastian Dziallas
>         <sebastian at when.com <mailto:sebastian at when.com>
>         <mailto:sebastian at when.com <mailto:sebastian at when.com>>
>         <mailto:sebastian at when.com <mailto:sebastian at when.com>
>         <mailto:sebastian at when.com <mailto:sebastian at when.com>>>> wrote:
>
>                     Hi everybody,
>
>                     I'm happy to announce eventually the availability of
>         a new SoaS
>                     snapshot, which is one of the last snapshots on our
>         way to
>                 the v1
>         "Strawberry" release. I think it should be really mentioned that
>                 this
>                     wouldn't have been possible without Simon, who did great
>                 work on fixing
>                     sample content and activity installation issues. And
>         this
>                 brings me to
>                     the changes this snapshot introduces.
>
>                     * You'll get sample content (#840) - Gary worked
>         this out.
>                     - Please report if you encounter a "journal full"
>         message or
>                 not!
>
>                     * The shiny new boot screen has now been introduced
>         (#709).
>
>                     * Activities get installed in a new way (#929) to
>         preserve
>                 mimetypes.
>
>                     So again, please please test this! And if you've got
>         some
>                 spare minutes,
>                     run through some activities and report it if they don't
>                 work. If there's
>                     any must-have activity on a.sl.o we haven't already
>                 included, please let
>                     me know, too.
>
>                     Finally, what's coming up next? As the final image
>         for the
>                 June 24
>                     release will be composed today (!), there will be
>         another
>                 snapshot
>                     before. There, we'll introduce minor changes and
>         also try to
>                 fix #730,
>                     which should make SoaS working again on some VIA
>         hardware.
>
>                     In the meantime, grab the snapshot from here (sorry, no
>                 appliance images
>                     for now, as we really focus on the live media for
>         the release):
>
>         http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/2/Soas2-200906191638.iso
>
>                     That's it for now. I'm going to get some sleep, work
>         will
>                 continue later
>                     today. Happy testing and please ping me, also on
>         IRC, if there's
>                     anything urgent.
>
>                     Cheers,
>                     --Sebastian
>                     _______________________________________________
>                     Sugar-devel mailing list
>         Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>         <mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org>
>         <mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>         <mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org>>
>         <mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>         <mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org>
>         <mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>         <mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org>>>
>
>         http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>
>
>
>
>                 --
>                 Caroline Meeks
>                 Solution Grove
>                 Caroline at SolutionGrove.com
>
>                 617-500-3488 - Office
>                 505-213-3268 - Fax
>
>
>
>
>
>         --
>         Caroline Meeks
>         Solution Grove
>         Caroline at SolutionGrove.com
>
>         617-500-3488 - Office
>         505-213-3268 - Fax
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Caroline Meeks
> Solution Grove
> Caroline at SolutionGrove.com
>
> 617-500-3488 - Office
> 505-213-3268 - Fax