[Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Fwd: [Marketing] Press release flurry planning (LinuxTag - FOSSED - NECC - GUADEC)

[Caroline Meeks]

I agree with much of what has been said. Sugar on a Stick should not be
linked to any one distro.

The way I look at it is there are currently potentially three ways a kid can
get access to "their" Sugar.

1. One-to-One Laptops - Each kid gets a laptop.
2. Virtualization - When you are connected to the network you have access to
your Sugar desktop.
3. Sugar on a Stick - The kid has a USB or SD Card and carries that around
for use in different computers.

None of these are inherently distro dependent and as the technology matures
there are more and more choices for each.

Note that the vision is Sugar on a Stick may reboot the computer and/or the
same stick may run with a VM or LTSP.

I thought we had decided to use Flavors? i.e. Sugar on a Stick Strawberry is
our current release and it is based on Fedora 11.

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:18 PM, David Van Assche <dvanassche at gmail.com>wrote:

> Sean... u stated it very correctly. Lets leave whats under the hood,
> there where its supposed to be... we are driving a car, and whether
> thats a mercedes, bmw or ford really shouldnt matter as long as it
> drives.... now if u want specific items in your car or u want your car
> to drive in a particular style and speed, then have a look see what
> the different car brands do and how they differ.... but just cause u
> like car X, doesn't mean that is the only term used to describe what
> it is you are driving...
>
> Thats just one simple analogy, but its relevant to just about anything....
>
> SoaS = Sugar on a Stick is a generic term that doesn't in any way hint
> at what distro its aimed for. Thats the reason why I suggested sub
> SoaS to define distros, like FedSoaS, but whatever... if SoaS is what
> most people want to brand the fedora SoaS product, go ahead... but
> it'll confuse people for sure..
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:29 PM, David Van Assche<dvanassche at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > ok,
> >  This is becoming silly...
> > Fedora nor Sugarlabs (and I think I consider myself quite a central
> > contributor to sugarlabs) does not have a patent, trademark or
> > anything else that should somehow allow it to kidnap the term sugar on
> > a stick, which is a far too generic term to be kidnapped by anyone. I
> > will, and in public too, call any distribution that contains sugar on
> > a usb/SD or any other kind of stick Sugar on a stick (SoaS) as that is
> > what it technically is. I'll end the discussion at that as going any
> > further is probably going to spiral into something resembling a
> > non-sensical flame war.
> >
> > David Van Assche
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:49 PM, James Zaki<jzgreen at sugarlabs.org>
> wrote:
> >> +1 Bert and others
> >>
> >> <my2cents>
> >> Outside of the opensource world I've seen many non-mainstream groups
> become
> >> too thinly spread due the many dedicated individuals involved together.
> I've
> >> seen in first hand in a few different sports, and know of it in a couple
> of
> >> other examples, such as French left wing political parties.
> >>
> >> I dont want to repeat everyone, but I fully agree with SoaS being
> Fedora,
> >> and other distros a seperate thing for those want to do that.
> >> If distro support was a task for the sweet sugar people there would be
> less
> >> resources on actual sugar development.
> >>
> >> Forgive me, as I tend to have a habit of stating the obvious.
> >> James
> >> </my2cents>
> >>
> >>
> >> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:53:48 +0200
> >> From: Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de>
> >> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Fwd: [Marketing] Press release
> >>        flurry  planning (LinuxTag - FOSSED - NECC - GUADEC)
> >> To: Sugar-dev Devel <sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org>
> >> Cc: Marketing <Marketing at lists.sugarlabs.org
> >>>,  IAEP List
> >>        <iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org>
> >> Message-ID: <4C153F4B-8BB5-4583-A9A2-F5620667A3EA at freudenbergs.de>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
> >>
> >> On 18.06.2009, at 20:28, David Van Assche wrote:
> >>
> >>> Soas = sugar on a stick.... whether that be on Fedora, Suse, debian,
> >>> or mandriva... they are all the same thing, and I would argue SoaS is
> >>> NOT a distro... just a dsitribution mechanism... for example, I call
> >>> my opensuse based sugar on stick SoaS too, as that is technically what
> >>> it is...
> >>
> >> You can call that whatever you want, but please not in public. SoaS
> >> means a very specific distro, not just any Linux+Sugar slapped onto a
> >> USB flash drive.
> >>
> >>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Sean DALY<sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> I beg everyone's pardon, I was under the impression that SoaS is
> >>>> Fedora-specific... are there plans to do versions based on other
> >>>> distros?
> >>
> >> No, there are no such plans currently.
> >>
> >> IMHO we should not water down the meaning of "SoaS".
> >>
> >> - Bert -
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