[Sugar-devel] [IAEP] collaboration testing session

[Gary C Martin]

On 5 Jun 2009, at 09:24, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 06:09, David Van Assche<dvanassche at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>    We are having a collaborative sugar testing session next week  
>> Wednesday
>> 10th June at 20:00 UTC (That is 4 pm EDT, 3pm EST, 2 pm CST, 1 pm  
>> MST, and
>> 12 pm PST, most of Europe that will be 9 pm, 8 pm for the UK)
>>
>> So far we have 5 people signed up, but more are welcome as we  
>> really want to
>> see how collaboration works on many activities where it isn't quite  
>> obvious.
>> We will be taking notes and storing log files of the sessions, and  
>> will
>> suggest ways in which the activity in question might be more  
>> collaborative,
>> or may need less of it (who knows :-)
>>
>> We will be testing the activities that come preinstalled on the  
>> openSUSE
>> sugar images, but we'd like to test various distribution methods  
>> (virtual
>> appliance, cd, usb, hd) and various distros (at least Fedora SoaS,  
>> openSUSE
>> sugar, Mandriva or Caixa Magica) I dont believe 0.82 images are  
>> compatible
>> with 0.84 for collaboration, so am afraid this is for 0.84 only...
>
> What do you mean by "compatible for collaboration" and why do you
> think it won't work between 0.82 and 0.84?

Just wanted to chime in here, and great idea by the way!

FWIW, I don't remember any Activity releases announcing they had  
broken collaboration with previous releases, so issues should be down  
to general collaboration bugs within an Activity, Sugar collaboration  
code, the server/network infrastructure, or possibly the dirsto/ 
platform (e.g a few months back Fedoras default firewall setting was  
blocking local collaboration). It's very much worth keeping track of  
Sugar version, activity version, distro as you test, that way you can  
re-test a bug with different combinations to help isolate where the  
fault is (also testing later in a local salute environment can isolate  
issues caused by Jabber server use).

You will bump into faults... if you want to make a real difference,  
finding clearly repeatable cases is the absolute gold standard in  
getting fixes (random fail reports are interesting but rarely  
actionable). Wednesday 10th June (I'll be there) will be a fair shake  
of the tree. Later, in more controlled version/release/network/distro  
environments each issue can be re-tested, confirmed-reproducible,  
isolated as far as possible and trac reported.

Regards,
--Gary

> Regards,
>
> Tomeu
>
>> Please
>> post your willingness to participate so we have an idea on who/how  
>> many will
>> be collaborating. We also need a volunteer to take notes, and a  
>> volunteer to
>> store logs files. There will of course be a transcript of the irc  
>> session
>> too (we will meet at #sugar-collaboration) We forsee this taking  
>> between 1
>> and 2 hours...
>>
>> Here is the list of activities we will be testing, so make sure you  
>> have
>> them installed if you plan to take part (not all have collaborative
>> abilities, and for those that don't it can be a brainstorming  
>> session on
>> whether/how we can make them collaborative:
>>
>> sugar-finance
>> sugar-flipsticks-activity
>> sugar-freecell
>> sugar-imageviewer
>> sugar-implode
>> sugar-infoslicer
>> sugar-jigsaw-puzzle-activity
>> sugar-joke-machine-activity
>> sugar-jukebox
>> sugar-labyrinth
>> sugar-maze
>> sugar-memorize
>> sugar-moon
>> sugar-paint-activity
>> sugar-pippy
>> sugar-playgo
>> sugar-read
>> sugar-readetexts-activity
>> sugar-record
>> sugar-slider-puzzle-activity
>> sugar-speak
>> sugar-storybuilder
>> sugar-tamtam-common
>> sugar-tamtam-edit
>> sugar-tamtam-jam
>> sugar-tamtam-mini
>> sugar-tamtam-synthlab
>> sugar-analyze
>> sugar-turtleart
>> sugar-typing-turtle
>> sugar-viewslides
>> sugar-write
>> sugar-browse
>> sugar-irc
>> sugar-calculate
>> sugar-xomail (sugar-sweetmail)
>> sugar-cartoonbuilder
>> sugar-clock
>> sugar-colors
>> sugar-connect
>> sugar-drgeo-activity
>> xoEditor
>> sugar-evince
>> sugar-fiftytwo
>> sugar-chat
>> sugar-terminal
>> sugar-journal
>> sugar-physics
>> sugar-library
>> sugar-poll
>> sugar-tuxpaint
>>
>> kind Regards,
>> David (nubae) Van Assche
>> www.nubae.com
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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