[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Labyrinth-7

[Eben Eliason]

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com> wrote:
> Hi Simon,
>
> On 1 Jun 2009, at 13:06, Simon Schampijer wrote:
>
>> On 05/31/2009 08:56 PM, Gary C Martin wrote:
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> Latest version of Labyrinth, fresh out of the oven.
>>>
>>> == Source ==
>>>
>>> http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Labyrinth/Labyrinth-7.tar.bz2
>>>
>>> == Bundle ==
>>>
>>> http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4078/
>>>
>>> == Wiki page ==
>>>
>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Labyrinth
>>>
>>> == News ==
>>>
>>> * Now supports "Keep to PDF" ("Keep to PDF" can be found under the
>>> Keep button), so you can now upload PDFs of your maps for non-Sugar
>>> users to view, or transfer them for easy printing.

>>> * Includes all the latest available language files, that covers at
>>> least Spanish, French, German, Greek, Italian, Kinyarwanda, Tamil,
>>> and
>>> I'm sure many more (it's hard to see the full list).
>>>
>>> Happy mind-mapping (tested on both XO-1 with 0.82, and sugar-jhbuild
>>> 0.84)!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> --Gary
>>
>> Awesome, does work very nicely. I can export to PDF just fine. The
>> labeling "Keep to PDF" -> maybe as it is grouped under the "keep"
>> button you only need to label it Postscript (PDF), as the Write
>> activity is doing as well?
>
> lol :-) To keep it similar to Write I had been using "Portable
> Document Format (PDF)" as the string but thought it too ungainly, I'd
> just taken it out prior to release:
>
>        http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/labyrinth/repos/mainline/commits/84c9f787d5490cc1fdfeae2a5ccd5ca57b1c2c96
>
> But your right, I just had a trigger finger on that change. I have a
> bunch more export formats to add in an upcoming release (PNG, JPG) so
> that menu will get larger anyway. I'll revert. :-)

I know I keep nagging about this, but at some point in the future I
hope we'll finally have menu section labels. I think the proper way to
handle export to various formats is to have a "Keep as" section label,
with one or more menu items in the format "<document format>
(<extension>)." So, in general I like "Keep as" better than "Keep to"
(I think this reads more naturally, and nods to the functinoality of a
"save as" operation on other desktops), and I think that spelling out
the format is a Good Thing, even if it's a little long in some cases,
since it's in the secondary menu anyway.

This makes it much nicer for many formats just as "Plain text (TXT)",
"Rich Text (RTF)", etc. I think showing the extension in paren is a
nice clarifier, and should be used unless it's used within the format
string because it's the "canonical" way to refer to that format, , as
in "PNG Image", "JPEG Image", perhaps.

It sounds like there should be a HIG section on this topic... Anyway,
I think "Portable Document Format (PDF)" might be best, myself.

Eben


>> What I find a bit hard to find out from the interface is to use the
>> right mouse click to move an item, or the windows-key+left mouse
>> click to pan in the image. Hard to expose this as a button in the
>> interface.
>
> Yes... Tell me about it... It's been a real fix'er'upper as far as the
> original GNOME Labyrinth UI 'design' (I use that word speculatively).
> Lot's of things I'd like to improve, but lots of spaghetti...
>
>> Maybe it could be mentioned in the first 'click to add a first
>> thought'-bubble that there is more info on the wiki?
>
> I set-up that 'click to add a first thought'-bubble to be part of a
> multi step help hint to get you going, the intent was once you added
> your first thought, you'd get some new help hint message telling you a
> few more tricks. Good idea, bad idea?
>
> Thanks for the test and feedback!
>
> Regards,
> --Gary
>
>> Regards,
>>   Simon
>
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