[Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Sean DALY]

Here's the second mockup:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Eleven_Color_Ray_Variant.2C_Growing_XO_Avatar.2C_Starts_With_Logo_Splash_Page

This version includes a logo/copyright splash page and a "growing" or
"approaching" XO avatar.

Comments welcome please.

thanks

Sean


On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Eleven_Color_Ray_Variant_of_XO_Avatar_Sugar_Boot.2C_Grey_to_Color_Transition
>
> I've finally updated the wiki with my first mockup! Sorry about the
> delay, I lack graphics editing skills I'm afraid.
>
> I have attached comment to the mockup. I keep the XO avatar size
> stable in this first one, I want to try another one with growing size
> as expressed yesterday.
>
> Note: the idea is this follows a previous page with Sugar logo,
> version info, copyright notice, and distro logo (+ possibility of
> school logo). I will try to work those into my next mockup.
>
> The spectrum colors were cheerfully eyedropped from an image of
> Ellsworth Kelly's painting "Spectrum IV" (1967), with the
> particularity that I thought it interesting to cycle from XO green
> (mockup green darker than should be, sorry)
>
> thanks
>
> Sean
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Christian Marc Schmidt
> <christianmarc at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Sean--a visual would be good to fully understand the proposal.
>> I guess my feeling on all of this is that less is more--as Eben said
>> earlier, the boot sequence is really just the set-up for the UI. I'd
>> be happy if we simply did away with the split-XO, but I'm also
>> on-board with adding a bit of color, though I would caution not to
>> overthink it. The reason the Mac OS boot sequence you mention works so
>> well is due to its simplicity. Instead of a face, we have the XO as
>> our emblem--and the circle, while making a reference to connectedness
>> and community, transitions into a core feature of the UI in Home...
>>
>> Either way, looking forward to seeing your mockups!
>>
>>
>> Christian
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I like Gary's most recent one with the dots filling in color
>>>
>>> I got halfway through a mockup with XO avatars appearing, then
>>> Activity icons, but I feel using either will just be too confusing...
>>> one could think network discovery was happening, or Activity loading.
>>>
>>> After much reflection, I think the friendliest greeting we could offer
>>> to Learners is a face, a Speakish one with eyes rolling around the
>>> ring (and a growing smile) while the colors come on. There are still
>>> many people who fell in love with their little Macs because of the
>>> smiley face.
>>>
>>> But... that's outside the Sugar HIG and I would think twice before
>>> stepping outside of that. So I reread them and came up with this idea
>>> (which I hope to mock up tomorrow): instead of dots, I want to do
>>> oblong ovals like a big version of the Activity spinner graphic. I
>>> searched high and low on sl.o and laptop.org for an SVG but only found
>>> a lo-res PNG :-( so I'll just improvise ovals. What I like about
>>> presenting the spinner is: immediate identification of a waiting
>>> period, no confusion with other elements (the filled in dots are too
>>> similar to networks in the Neighborhood view). Also I like that the
>>> spinner has 11, not 12 dividers; that asymmetry is interesting and
>>> remains clocklike. I like Gary's proposal of empty ones filled with
>>> color which I'd like to keep. And... I'd like to start the middle XO
>>> icon small (e.g. neighborhood view size) and step it up in size with
>>> each spinner step; grow in importance as the system builds, until at
>>> the end normal size.
>>>
>>> As for the colors, I'm not sure I like the color pairs... I'd like to
>>> try solid colors, moving through the spectrum rainbowlike. Less
>>> Sugarish perhaps, but visually stronger might be.
>>>
>>> Not sure if the initial logo flash is enough, but concerned that
>>> keeping it around might fight the spinner ring.
>>>
>>> Will have a visual tomorrow to show (holiday so I will have some time)
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Christian Marc Schmidt
>>> <christianmarc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Re: grey vs. colors in progress: Actually, I have an issue with
>>>>> all-grey... users could worry that colors are not working in the Sugar
>>>>> UI.
>>>>
>>>> If we treated the XO in the center in the selected color combination,
>>>> we would not only address Sean's point, but also act as a signifier of
>>>> identity. But I take it this is a technical challenge? I do also agree
>>>> with the point that gray means "in progress". A simplified version of
>>>> the current boot sequence, without the spinning/split XO, would work
>>>> well I think.
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't overthink the gray dots--they are just status indicators
>>>> and the more important aspect in this case (in my opinion) is the XO
>>>> and the radial arrangement that references the ring in Home.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Christian
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we should consider colors although I do appreciate the "still
>>>>> loading" context communicated by grey.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will post a mockup later expressing that approach; grey dots present
>>>>> right from the start (ring power!), filling in with color during
>>>>> progress... the ring "approaching" colors from grey
>>>>>
>>>>> I would not recommend customizing the splash/progress from within
>>>>> Sugar... boot time is often a tense moment fraught with impatience
>>>>> (especially after a freeze/crash) and predictability in how Sugar
>>>>> "usually" loads is I think desirable
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Sean
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 30 May 2009, at 16:36, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree with your points--comments below:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 30 May 2009, at 10:17, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Gary, this looks good, though I wonder about the loss of the XO in
>>>>>>>>> the center. The boot sequence was intended to establish the UI, and in
>>>>>>>>> many ways the XO does signify the Sugar brand as much (more?) as the
>>>>>>>>> logo. Suggestion: Could we not simply show the logo for a few seconds,
>>>>>>>>> before transitioning into the current boot sequence? I'd hate to lose
>>>>>>>>> the current sequence, I think it works very well, and Eben will attest
>>>>>>>>> that much time was spent arriving at where we are today...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, agreed, the original boot up is very hard to beat (showing a child
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> central). Just bouncing ideas about here. My only criticisms of the
>>>>>>>> original
>>>>>>>> would be:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) not liking the kid icon breaking into a rotating arrow treatment
>>>>>>>> (seems
>>>>>>>> too forced/smart, the whole XO icon is a stronger identity, appearing
>>>>>>>> dots
>>>>>>>> show progress just fine)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree! A stationary XO icon would be simpler, less forced.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) seemed odd for the dots to appear from 6 o'clock to 6 o'clock (12 to
>>>>>>>> 12
>>>>>>>> feels more natural to me)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Agree with that, too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cool. There's a sample animation of the 2 above uploaded.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3) lack of any colour (though this is tough to avoid breaking HIG
>>>>>>>> iconography on colour use)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here, I think it would be best if the XO would have the colors set in the
>>>>>>> UI...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sebastian is truly, madly, deeply going to hate you for this suggestion ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do like that use of greys to signify that 'things are not ready yet' so
>>>>>> I'm on the fence here. I did try another animation with the dots appearing
>>>>>> in the 12 logo fill/outline colours. I did wonder about showing them all as
>>>>>> grey from the start, and then lighting up with colour.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> --Gary
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> --Gary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just to get a basic, safe, default starting point in there, I've
>>>>>>>>>> uploaded
>>>>>>>>>> one simple treatment to:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Sugar_Boot_Logo_Animations
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Will try to upload a couple more tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Night,
>>>>>>>>>> --Gary
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> P.S. Should pull this back on list, your call Sean, but probably worth
>>>>>>>>>> getting a couple more ideas up so that folks can input to some
>>>>>>>>>> alternative
>>>>>>>>>> treatments.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 30 May 2009, at 00:58, Sean DALY wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Christian, Eben
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if you are on sugar-devel but this is I think an
>>>>>>>>>>> outstanding opportunity for Sugar branding, "celebrating" Sugar
>>>>>>>>>>> interface.iconography and greeting children.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I know nothing about the plymouth boot animator, but i deduce that
>>>>>>>>>>> consecutively named files will do the trick
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm willing to attack this but before I try scraping screenshots, do
>>>>>>>>>>> you guys have any interface assets i could grab?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Input greatly appreciated
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we could work on it together?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> here's my idea.... like my booth rollup banner mockup which Christian
>>>>>>>>>>>> 7 Eben both liked, I want to stay as much as possible within the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sugar
>>>>>>>>>>>> HIG and iconography.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> boot should start with our logo ... smaller than in the previous SoaS
>>>>>>>>>>>> ... (not sure yet if should be with or without "labs")
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The ring is iconic ... I want to keep a ring at boot... but instead
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> dots, I want XO avatars - kids!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In the middle... each succeeding image with a colored Activity
>>>>>>>>>>>> icon...
>>>>>>>>>>>> matched to the corresponding XO avatar appearing in the ring. So kids
>>>>>>>>>>>> understand that Activities are for them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And ending with... kids around the Journal!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternate idea: cycling through the 12 logo color combos?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not mutually exclusive... logo could be on the bottom of ring
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> P.S. I've actually done something similar with a titling sequence for
>>>>>>>>>>>> a short film. I started with the final image and wiped elements,
>>>>>>>>>>>> backing down to the first image
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I use imagemagick a lot no problem to create a script which could
>>>>>>>>>>>> inject arbitrary text into a ppm file
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Gary C Martin
>>>>>>>>>>>> <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sean,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> FYI, this came in off list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --G
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: James Zaki <james.zaki at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 29 May 2009 22:24:06 BST
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm in touch with a design company who owes me a favour or two.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could get them to whip up some concept designs for inspiration?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2009/5/29 Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29 May 2009, at 21:37, Sean DALY wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sebastian, Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to take a stab at it, I've actually had an idea brewing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> awhile
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cool, shout if you need extra hands/review.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --G
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the deadline please?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Gary C Martin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <gary at garycmartin.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29 May 2009, at 18:41, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sorry for the short notice, but this is rather urgent. I've been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spending yesterday afternoon to update the packages in our SoaS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to reflect the changes for Fedora 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As it turned out, the plymouth package has been partly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rewritten,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was wondering (also with regard to #709), how we wanted to deal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new boot screen. For now, I've just implemented the old Sugar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again, but we might also want to have something more shiny
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a progress bar).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some form of progress indicator would be a useful addition.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not really that good at art and the Sugar logo thing there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first nothing more than a quick hack, so it'd would be really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone could have a look and work on such a boot screen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to give it a look/shot from a graphics point of view if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one else steps forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So. When did you need it by?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OLPC is currently doing the same for their 1.5 software release,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gives us a good possibility to have a look at the file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.freedesktop.org/~halfline/olpc.tar.bz2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if there's anything I can help with.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm new to plymouth, but looking at the content of olpc.tar.bz2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems simple. My main question is where should I look for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> config
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that describes which images get loaded in what order. Perhaps the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> names just conform to some hardcoded protocol? How about the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of corner-image.png, perhaps hardcoded again?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm just downloading your latest Soas build so will have a dig in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there to see what you have done already – I'm just wondering if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is really as easy as generating a bunch of png files with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file names :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Sebastian
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