[Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

[Walter Bender]

FWIW, in my limited experience with 0.84 in front of kids, the toolbar
entry for changing the name is rarely used, except in conjunction with
keep (recall that thread?). Since we prompt for a name and description
the first time you close an activity, it is not clear that the name
field needs the same precedence it currently has.

-walter

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Gary C Martin<gary at garycmartin.com> wrote:
> Hi Simon,
>
> On 29 Jul 2009, at 08:55, Simon Schampijer wrote:
>
>>> FWIW: Picking the top level tool set is going to be a real tough
>>> call in
>>> a number of cases as we loose toolbar space for each extra tab,
>>> plus the
>>> activity icon on far left (essential for Activity recognition),
>>> plus the
>>> stop icon on far right (essential, no questions, no doubts). The
>>> features that actually fit in the remaining space may seem quite an
>>> arbitrary hotchpotch.
>>
>> Gary, I am not sure I get your arguments right :/ Can you elaborate?
>> What I conclude of all the answers, I think that space in the
>> primary toolbar is an issue. So we need to decide what to put there.
>> Does activity icon and stop icon sounds good to you as well?
>
> Sorry if that wasn't clear. Activity icon and stop icon are essential.
> The Activity icon is going to be critical for identifying what
> activity you are in at a glance, especially if the actual title name
> is hidden away in a sub toolbar. A downside if we loose the title in
> the primary toolbar is reinforcement of knowing what activity you are
> in (say you are copy/pasting between two similar Write documents)...
>
>>> Simon: I'd started on the Browse mock-up, do you need me to
>>> continue (I
>>> though my tabs to icons process was pretty transparent, requiring
>>> close
>>> to zero redesign of existing tool layouts, other than some new
>>> svg's for
>>> the replacement buttons)? Happy to continue, could post later
>>> tomorrow
>>> if that helps the decision process.
>>
>> Ok, it works out for me, thanks. I used the mockups from Eben (http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Designs/Toolbars#11
>> ) and added the activity toolbar on the left and the stop button on
>> the right.
>
> OK, no problem.
>
>> Icons:
>>
>> view: I found device/camera.svg in sugar-artwork. I guess we can use
>> it for the edit toolbar. It looks maybe a bit small next to the stop
>> button.
>>
>> edit: would be nice to get the scissor icon in artwork. As I
>> understood Eben has one laying around already.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>   Simon
>
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